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09-19-2019, 05:08 AM
linay

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Originally Posted by Iscah

The issue is whether the things it reveals are going to be "FFXIV things" or whether it's going to bring in something from Nier and make it inextricably part of FFXIV's world, especially if that happens just because Yoko Taro wants to make a mark on the game rather than because it makes sense.

Anything it reveals in FFXIV will be "FFXIV things" unless it's non-canon stuff like crossover temporary events. It can also be something that is taken from Nier, but that is irrelevant once it happens in Eorzea/Norvrandt.

Here's a question: Has anyone seen anything from this raid that could never happen in the world of FFXIV that already has Omega and all the capability it has shown, not to mention all other magic and technology? I think the answer to that is no.

And speaking of Omega, the origin of it and Midgardsormr could very well have been the plot of a different franchise. But even if it was, it wouldn't have mattered as, when they arrived at Eorzea, they became a part of FFXIV, just like whatever will be in Yorha will be a part of FFXIV.
09-19-2019, 05:21 AM
jameseoakes

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Originally Posted by linay

Anything it reveals in FFXIV will be "FFXIV things" unless it's non-canon stuff like crossover temporary events. It can also be something that is taken from Nier, but that is irrelevant once it happens in Eorzea/Norvrandt.

Here's a question: Has anyone seen anything from this raid that could never happen in the world of FFXIV that already has Omega and all the capability it has shown, not to mention all other magic and technology? I think the answer to that is no.

And speaking of Omega, the origin of it and Midgardsormr could very well have been the plot of a different franchise. But even if it was, it wouldn't have mattered as, when they arrived at Eorzea, they became a part of FFXIV, just like whatever will be in Yorha will be a part of FFXIV.

You've kinda hit on a lot of my issues with this. It's not that they can't be crossed over (though the First seems like a very poor setting for it as it has been built as a more high Fantasy setting) but it looks like the Nier team has no interest in that.
09-19-2019, 05:27 AM
linay

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Originally Posted by jameseoakes

You've kinda hit on a lot of my issues with this. It's not that they can't be crossed over (though the First seems like a very poor setting for it as it has been built as a more high Fantasy setting) but it looks like the Nier team has no interest in that.

You keep saying this but I haven't seen any reason to accept your conclusion. Sorry, but you're going to have to show me some evidence of that when they already said that you don't have to play Nier to enjoy Yorha.
09-19-2019, 05:36 AM
jameseoakes

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Originally Posted by linay

You keep saying this but I haven't seen any reason to accept your conclusion. Sorry, but you're going to have to show me some evidence of that when they already said that you don't have to play Nier to enjoy Yorha.

They have said you don't need to play Nier to enjoy the story, which may or may not be true, though given there has been talk of this being some kind of continuity of Nier I find that difficult to follow. My point is that from what I've seen of the Nier team they're not interested in making this fit in the setting we have. This bother me a lot as one of the main reasons I like 14 is for it's setting and plot.
09-19-2019, 07:19 AM
linay

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Originally Posted by jameseoakes

My point is that from what I've seen of the Nier team they're not interested in making this fit in the setting we have. This bother me a lot as one of the main reasons I like 14 is for it's setting and plot.

Again, what specifically have you seen?
09-19-2019, 02:32 PM
MomomiMomi

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Originally Posted by jameseoakes

They have said you don't need to play Nier to enjoy the story, which may or may not be true, though given there has been talk of this being some kind of continuity of Nier I find that difficult to follow.

Nier takes place after Drakengard. It has almost nothing to do with Drakengard and you absolutely don't need to play Drakengard to enjoy Nier. Nier: Automata takes place after Nier. Although this does have more direct references to events that happened in Nier, you absolutely do not need to play Nier to enjoy Automata.

This will likely be the same.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

The problem is that this "guy I shouldn't take seriously" (and I can see that I shouldn't/can't) has been put in charge of writing a chapter of a story I generally like, and I am extremely wary about what he will do with it - and whether he is working with the storywriters or is doing his own thing and leaving them to pick up the pieces.

If they let him do that, then the fault lies with the FFXIV team for letting him get away with whatever he wants. Do you not trust them as much as it seems you do?
09-19-2019, 04:47 PM
TaleraRistain

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Originally Posted by XenoSamurai

There is so many people here taking this way too seriously, don't forget that were playing this game for fun. This raid doesn't effect the main story at all and these raids are optional content, if you don't like it just skip the cutscenes and do the raid just for the gear. I for one am super excited for this raid as Nier:A is one of my favorite games.

Just like the Crystal Tower storyline was just optional content that didn't effect the main story at all? The 24 man raids aren't just fluff that never influences anything else in the game, as we've just seen in this expansion.
09-19-2019, 05:08 PM
linay

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

Just like the Crystal Tower storyline was just optional content that didn't effect the main story at all? The 24 man raids aren't just fluff that never influences anything else in the game, as we've just seen in this expansion.

Indeed, but Yorha should be as canonical as the other alliance raids.
09-19-2019, 05:37 PM
Duskane

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

Just like the Crystal Tower storyline was just optional content that didn't effect the main story at all? The 24 man raids aren't just fluff that never influences anything else in the game, as we've just seen in this expansion.

Crystal tower was also a pretty iconic thing in FF though
not every raid will get the ShB treatment
09-19-2019, 09:11 PM
Maero

Did you all just miss how they were all laughing when he was on the panel with them?
lol you people do take it way too seriously

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