Too many bots, too few bans: The Shadowbringers edition.

Right now, there is a DoH/L bot on Cactuar who adjusts his prices and undercuts after literally every single timed node he goes to.

It's making it damned near impossible to sell anything unless you're willing to be similarly persistent in watching your prices.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

I think part of the problem is that botting is client side like similar tools used for screen shots. And while both are against the ToS I have been told that they for legal reasons they cannot install client side detections onto your home computer even though their own applications such as the launcher? Which is why mods have been able to sneak by unless they brag about it in game.

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A lot of MMOs like WoW do have security programs that check to see if any external programs are interacting with the game client and will either automatically report you to the GMs or simply close the game.

I can respect SE for wanting to not intrude on people's privacy but they should be compensating for a lack of automated security with more diligent manual enforcement.

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Originally Posted by Mistyregions

You know what's awesome, is bots are the future, robotic labor dawg it will replace us.

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It pretty much does eventually end up having that effect because people aren't going to waste time crafting to make money when the bots have tanked the profit margin to a point where you can make nearly as much money for your time just from doing stuff like running treasure maps.

I just end up finding some niche glam items and furniture the bots don't touch then focus on those for profit.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

It pretty much does eventually end up having that effect because people aren't going to waste time crafting to make money when the bots have tanked the profit margin to a point where you can make nearly as much money for your time just from doing stuff like running treasure maps.

I just end up finding some niche glam items and furniture the bots don't touch then focus on those for profit.

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The worst part about this whole thing is the realization that for there to be so many rampant bots running around, there has to be a market. A huge market. This suggests to me that a lot of people are secretly in-fact purchasing this tainted gil. If there wasn't a profitable market, they wouldn't be botting so heavily. At least not as much. In this regard, it's just as much the players at fault as it is the lack of detection tools.

RMT is kind of like drugs. You go to work and you get the feeling that at least one of your co-workers is smoking something they shouldn't be. Now look at your FC and apply the same principal but towards RMT. They aren't going to tell you they are doing it. That would be stupid.

For example I met a level 60 leaf character quite recently infact that had over 50mil on their character and my mind just couldn't get around the how. Sometimes I wonder if it'd be better for SE to just sell the gil themselves over mog station but that would just create a whole different set of problems.