Since Lore Suddenly Matters

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Originally Posted by Osteichthyes

If they released only Viera: "It's just like Au'ra, a Hyur with bunny ears! They should have learned from the past!."
If they released only Hrothgar: "Seriously!? Where's our Viera!? We've been asking for ages!."
If they try and release both with both genders: Yoshi-P dies. Actually though. I am very concerned for his health.
And we all know how the two races but only one gender went.

Moral of this story, no matter what they would do people are going to complain.
I personally think they should have left Hrothgar alone, went Viera and just ate the criticism about having another human looking race.

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Even though the team wanted to just do Hrothgar and not do veira, only adding them in due to rabid fan demand after both Fran appeared and the Dramaturge started mouthing off about their lore

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Originally Posted by Beki_Bayaqad

Even though the team wanted to just do Hrothgar and not do veira, only adding them in due to rabid fan demand after both Fran appeared and the Dramaturge started mouthing off about their lore

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Just so we are clear, the decision for adding the Viera into the game was done BEFORE Fran appeared and the Dramaturge started mouthing off before their lore.

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Originally Posted by MrThinker

Just so we are clear, the decision for adding the Viera into the game was done BEFORE Fran appeared and the Dramaturge started mouthing off before their lore.

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The plans were finalized back in 4.1.

Regardless of when it was decided for certain, the fact of the matter is that Viera were only implemented due to persistent fan demand. From what I understand, if the devs had it their way they would only have gone with the Hrothgar.

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Originally Posted by Cilia

From what I understand, if the devs had it their way they would only have gone with the Hrothgar.

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That is also what I understood from the interviews they gave, but it's good to have the facts straight no?

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Originally Posted by MrThinker

That is also what I understood from the interviews they gave, but it's good to have the facts straight no?

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Yes, and you'll have to forgive me for this, but I forgot own main point (I'd been up 23 hours at that point, and mental sharpness begins to decline).

People have been asking for Viera since roughly 2.0 - 2.55 at the latest, since they were contenders for the 3.0 race. While Return to Ivalice and Fran's appearance as an NPC intensified expectations, the fact of the matter is that people have been asking for them since long, long before that.

in the end when people give actual feedback to this game instead of crying like a baby and quitting the game over it...things happen....i seen you came back b4 so u couldnt even leave properly...lol so i hope you are faking your excitement for this since u got what u want ya baby

The lore hasn't changed. Male Miq'ote are still canonically very rare and you can count the number of Male Mi'qote NPCs you meet on one hand. (the Arcanist guildmaster, that one guy in Southern Thanalan, two other guys in the Fringes, and G'raha Tia... and that's it). The other male Miq'ote players running around aren't canon. Same deal as in WoW, where canonically 99% of the Blood Elves have been wiped out and there are only a few thousand still left alive. Ignore the fact that Blood Elves are the most popular Horde player race; other players aren't canon.

This has been true of every FFXIV expansion race. There aren't canonically a lot of Au Ra running around Eorzea, just as there aren't canonically thousands of Warriors of Darkness running around Norvrandt. You are the only canon player character. The closest population of Au Ra are the people of Werlyt, in Ilsabard. The Dark Knight story, you learn that Ishgardian knights had never seen Au Ra before and killed a whole tribe of them that arrived recently, thinking that they were a type of dragon or heretics that drank dragon blood. In universe, the people of Eorzea should be amazed to see you playing an expansion race, but it's too much effort on Square's part to go back and rewrite the dialogue and alter some cutscenes to account for that.

I'll have you know my Lalafell is extremely muscular and physically capable!

Necroing a thread just to call someone out after getting what they want. Nice. [/sarcasm]

Apropos of the "missing gender(s)," didn't they say there was gonna be concept art of the female Hrothgar during the Fan Fest? I didn't see any.

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Originally Posted by Cilia

Necroing a thread just to call someone out after getting what they want. Nice. [/sarcasm]

Apropos of the "missing gender(s)," didn't they say there was gonna be concept art of the female Hrothgar during the Fan Fest? I didn't see any.

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Someone who's last post was in 2019, even. There's fishing for upvotes and then there's... whatever that was.

On-topic. Did they? I only heard we'd know more about them "soon". Which could indeed be in the Bozja finale and they deliberately didn't tell us to keep the surprise... or they just didn't want to commit to a look yet by releasing concept art.