DRKs just falling behind even more.

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Originally Posted by Galgarion

Man, I've been watching twitch streams of savage raiders all day, and a fair chunk of these clears have included Dark knights. I'm not saying that everything is hunky dory and that the job doesn't need an overhaul, but the foundations must surely be firm if so many people are still finding success with it. From what I've seen, it isn't broken, it's just middle of the road.

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I feel like it is hard for people to see the issue sometimes because Dark Knight is viable for content. The issue is that it isn't middle of the road, it is offering less then both of its competitors in just about everything you would want in a raid. Except in the last floor where dark mind is pretty good.

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Originally Posted by Galgarion

Man, I've been watching twitch streams of savage raiders all day, and a fair chunk of these clears have included Dark knights. I'm not saying that everything is hunky dory and that the job doesn't need an overhaul, but the foundations must surely be firm if so many people are still finding success with it. From what I've seen, it isn't broken, it's just middle of the road.

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If it were middle of the road it wouldn't be at the bottom.

Check FFLogs, 81% of tanks are playing either PLD or War, only 19% of raiders are taking DRK. What does that tell you?

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Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising

Can you link your source?

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It was an offhand comment in one of the recent live letters sorry for the late response, it was before 4.2 I just haven't been arsed to link the full live letter as it's an overload of information to sift through but I remember hearing him saying the comment.

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Originally Posted by Tint

lol he actually said that?

DRK has less defense, less damage, less selfheal, less utility, less enmity generation and appararently less burst than any other tank. the only thing DRK is top is in having useless skills (while he already has the least skills of all tanks).

and then we have this not thought out gameplay on top of it...

DRK needs a COMPLETE rework. and he doesn't even understand why people don't play the class anymore.... sigh...

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Yeah I agree DRK need some serious adjustments it's a lot of it's toolkit, gameplay, and how the class fairs vs War/Pld combos as War is just a god at the moment and Plds toolkit is amazing and then some. It's why a lot of the tank community has shifted from DRK to the other tank classes because of these issues that haven't been tackled since SB launch, DRK feels so out of place and we lost so much to gain so little in terms of gameplay, mitigation, DPS, I just hope the devs realize this before they burn their bridges.

Make drk great again!!! Convert to a melee dps and introduce a new tank

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Originally Posted by MonteCristo

Make drk great again!!! Convert to a melee dps and introduce a new tank

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No. That doesn't make DRK great again, or great at all.

Paraphrasing of course, but going off the response to the live letter question just now... yoshi straight up told DRK to stfu and go away?

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Originally Posted by Rosalynd

Paraphrasing of course, but going off the response to the live letter question just now... yoshi straight up told DRK to stfu and go away?

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yeah basically that, a complety indirect middle finger for us, i hope the official translate show something reddit missed.

His comment about Shadow Wall's timing having to line up with things is utter bollocks when Vengeance and Sentinel are on shorter CDs.

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Originally Posted by Aniya_Estlihn

His comment about Shadow Wall's timing having to line up with things is utter bollocks when Vengeance and Sentinel are on shorter CDs.

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only vengeance have shorter CDs, sentinel have the same but with more mitigation.

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Originally Posted by shao32

only vengeance have shorter CDs, sentinel have the same but with more mitigation.

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Thanks for the correction. I'm a little out of it at the moment.