Undercut Hell

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Originally Posted by dragorian

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So true.

I try pretty hard to maintain some sort of "sportsmanlike conduct", but sometimes I can't help but think, "Ok, deeznutz wants to sell (insert lvl 15 item that takes 5 minutes to make) for (insert price only affordable buy using rtms)......IIIIIIII think I'm gonna NOT charge that".

So ya, being competitive and irresponsible are two different things imo.

Price war keeps the market healthy,and doubles as a profit for indirectly getting rid of those RMT imo.

Tell me, How does selling items for 1.5kk make any sense when the mats it self cost over 2kk? :)

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Originally Posted by Blitzace

Tell me, How does selling items for 1.5kk make any sense when the mats it self cost over 2kk? :)

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Mats only cost if you buy them from someone else. If you collect them yourself, they are free Gil wise.

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Originally Posted by Moerser

http://puu.sh/cDWn0/3e2723b8ab.jpg

The trololol is strong with those.

Greetz,
Mörser out

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Lol That's what the price for this one item I was trying to sell looks like. 60k all week, doing well so I decide "I'm going to make a few and make some gil" well it eventually dropped to 40k, so I put it for 39,999, someone does 38k, then some idiot decides to be "smart" and put it for 7k, then 7 other people drop it down to 2k -.-

I wish those idiots would realize, dropping it that much might sell theirs faster, but overall it's just screwing everyone else out of time/gil. And to those who use the excuse "it's my item, I'll sell it for whatever", that's a poor excuse, learn to be a team player and undercut correctly, it's not going to kill you to wait a little bit for something to sell for the correct price. All you're doing is killing the economy and making it that much harder to get gil, especially when SE keeps releasing certain things, like housing, that cost in the millions and instead of someone being able to make 60k+ off an item and get closer to obtaining one, you just screwed them out of 40k+ gil because you're in such a rush to sell something and don't give a crap about others, which you know, you should, considering it's a mmo, you know multiplayer.

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Originally Posted by Obysuca

.., someone does 38k, then some idiot decides to be "smart" and put it for 7k, then 7 other people drop it down to 2k -.-

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If it is not selling at 2K, it is not worth 2k. If firmly believe it is worth 40K or more, buy up all those 2K or items, you can 40K and get 20 of those, and then you just need to sell one to break even, and then sell another to be ahead 40K and still got 18 more you can do as you like.

If your so confident a item is worth X price feel free to buy up all the massive undercuts and flip them for profit.

The correct price is what it sells at. Don't get mad at others because you failed to accurately guage the demand of a certain item. You made a mistake, move on to something else.

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Originally Posted by Obysuca

Lol

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Wait what? You're asking people who want to sell their stuff ahead of yours to play FAIR? Gosh, if only actual businesses worked that way. This is a free market. People can sell what they want and how much they want. No one is working together in the market. They all want money and you aren't going to get money by working with merchants unless you are all trying to create a monopoly and share the profits among yourselves. There is no "correct" price, there is no fairness in a free market, and people do not and should not care about other sellers. There are no set rules for the game's free market and anyone who thinks there is or should be is only holding themselves back while everyone else rakes in the gil.

If people want to be stupid with undercutting, let them. They'll be taken advantage of anyway.

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Originally Posted by alimdia

If someone undercuts me by 1 gil repeatedly, I lower the price much more since I dont have time to undercut by 1 gil all day. I only change prices a few times a day

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This logic is slightly flawed.
The logic of others on this thread that "1g undercutters tick me off and I'll undercut by 1kg to 10kg out of pure spite" is hideously flawed.

All that is happening in these cases is that gil is left on the table, i.e., contributed to the buyer (who might be a flipper if you undercut an item by 10% or more, creating a profit opportunity)