60 Minute Time Limit on New Dungeons

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Originally Posted by Seraphita

What is so original about these new dungeons that makes me so retarded? :D

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Neither of you can answer that, you can't say it's unoriginal, nor completely original. They don't exist in game yet and we have next to no info on them.

again, this is all we know:

- there are two dungeons, one for r25-30 the other for 45-50
- we know where the entrances are
- there are pre-requisite quests to get into these dungeons
- there is a 60 min timer for completing the raids
- you can get gear from the dungeons
- we know what 3 pieces of that gear looks like but not the stats

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Originally Posted by Elkwood

Good this the game isn't being developed for the American gamer then. All the American or Western Gamer wants is items and levels handed to them on a silver platter. Hell if Most of the Western Gamers had it there way they would start the game off with Max level and beat it in a week.

This game is developed by the Japanese for the Japanese, if you dont like it then dont play, It is as simple as that.

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Oh is it? Is that why ITS IN ENGLISH FRENCH AND GERMAN as well?

Dorks. It stands for MMM beer...

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Originally Posted by Sol_Aureus

I'm not as concerned with the 60 minute time limit as I am with the reentry cooldown timer. I REALLY REALLY HOPE that they impose at the very least a 24 hour reentry cooldown timer on these.

Since this will probably be the only substantial new content, players are going to be doing these a LOT (assuming that the drops are worthwhile, which I assume they will be, because at the moment making a new item worthwhile isn't hard.) The last thing we need is a short reentry cooldown timer (or no reentry cooldown timer) because then players will just get groups together and spam these dungeons over and over and over and they'll get very boring and monotonous VERY quickly.

If the reentry cooldown timer is at least 24 hours, it'll at least slow the process of it becoming boring and monotonous, which will keep the playerbase distracted longer, giving them more time before the majority of the playerbase becomes restless again.

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i feel two ways about this, on oneside it can be fresh and last longer witha 24 hour cooldown
on the otherside
24 hour respawn
isnt very casual
tends to lead to statics
makes it not a way of getting sp


there are +s and -s on each side, i could go either way

If you're a decent player, 60 minutes shouldn't be a problem. Time limits were everywhere in FFXI. It's half of what made it's content so intense. I want time limits in this too, because it makes me bust my ass to try and finish whatever I'm doing instead of going too slow and wasting other players' time. It means you need to think fast and efficient in order to get the gear. I liked FFXI because you had to WORK for your gear. Not to say it was like a job, but it was a real challenge to gear most of the actual good gear (back when I played anyway). I understand FFXIV isn't FFXI, but I still want that same challenge. As does everyone on these forums considering the constant crying that this game is too easy.

You complain the game is too easy, then they put a time limit on a dungeon and you scream "BUT OTHER MMO'S DON'T HAVE THOSE. TAKE THEM AWAY, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TIME LIMITS :("

Also, it's always been a custom of SE to only post a screenshot and show you a small amount of gear in any content they released. Even with Campaign in XI, which ended up being completely awesome, they only showed a screenshot or two, and I don't even remember if they showed off gear. Just gonna have to get used to that.

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Originally Posted by Physic

yeah, honestly it is unlikley they will have any/many new mobs other than possibly a boss, even that is just a possibility. Looking at the dungeon pics, they were both in the game since release, and the youtube wall running person went to them from the same place. Also i ve seen the thaum weapon on NPCs already, so they are mostly using existing resources, that were already developed on release, i doubt they will go to far and add a lot of new monsters.

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true, if they had something to show they would.

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Originally Posted by Physic

i feel two ways about this, on oneside it can be fresh and last longer witha 24 hour cooldown
on the otherside
24 hour respawn
isnt very casual
tends to lead to statics
makes it not a way of getting sp


there are +s and -s on each side, i could go either way

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Yeah, but honestly I think this game needs some content for the core players (Don't get me wrong, I'm a semi-casual player). What this game needs right now is something challenging, which I really really hope these dungeons will be.

I WANT to bitch and moan about these dungeons like I did Nyzul half the time. Why? Because it was challenging, but fun.

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Originally Posted by Kailok

Yeah, but honestly I think this game needs some content for the core players (Don't get me wrong, I'm a semi-casual player). What this game needs right now is something challenging, which I really really hope these dungeons will be.

I WANT to bitch and moan about these dungeons like I did Nyzul half the time. Why? Because it was challenging, but fun.

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i agree, i dont want them to be easy, but that doesnt mean i want a limit placed on how often you can try.

You can have difficult fun content, that you can do as much as you want. Challenge mode in PSO for example. you could repeat it as much as you wanted, hmm if the rewards arent rare ex, and the dungeons are fun, it may be worth it to run it on multi charachters for kicks.

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Originally Posted by Kailok

Yeah, but honestly I think this game needs some content for the core players (Don't get me wrong, I'm a semi-casual player). What this game needs right now is something challenging, which I really really hope these dungeons will be.

I WANT to bitch and moan about these dungeons like I did Nyzul half the time. Why? Because it was challenging, but fun.

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really.... how hard can it be? healers have damn near infinate mana still XD
untill they adress mana costs per cast or maximum mana pools they pretty much made this game a fly through.
FF14 is just like Wrath of the Lich King Content in WoW. FACEROLL!
(heres hoping they change it soon)

just as an idea i think with all the hype they are building over this patch they would show some of the biggest and baddest thinks they have to build interest in the dungeons.

what do they show instead? digga's, orobons, skeletons? really?

i am not saying this is all that will be in there, but with people trying to hype something up they really are dropping the ball big time. i'd want to show some of the screenshots of a small group fighting a nm in there so we look and say "wow yeah that's what i want to be doing". on some point words do not work anymore for building hype. people heard the words and got let down and heard more words and got let down. it's time to actually show people a reason to get excited to see something new.

these dungeons may be fantastic, but the pr department are completely incompetent and unqualified. they are at the very least horrible and at worst case intentionally sabotaging the game at this point. if you want to use a picture or video as showing what is upcoming do not use the most boring and bland picture you can find. show the people something to be excited over.