SE it's time for A new Job Please. (Tank)

New tank to solve tanking issue? Want DPS? This job/class will be perfect.

Slave Driver: Enslave a player to be your meatshield

Whip: Beats up enslaved player so he tank better
Verbal Abuse: Makes enslaved player depress and therefore more open to your 1337 tanking advice.
Slave Master: Enslave more then 1 more player as your meatshield.
Ego Trip: Cause your enslaved players praise how 1337h4x your dps is and how infeior they are.
Lockout Threat: Blackmail enslaved players over content lockouts, if they don't "learn2tank better".

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

ps: in bravely default templar use more a sword than spear but well ^^

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Through various different games Templars used a variety of different weapons. Earliest I remember were from FFT with Swords, then FFTA's Bangaa Exclusive Templar used Shields. History wise, Templar was a special order that served the church and didn't have a specified weapon of choice as they used Sword, Spear, bows and Maces, practically anything that could have been found in a medieval time. Templar is another special classed Knight rank very similar to that of the Paladin but distinguished enough to be given a separate standing in most MMOs.

I would agree that it could be Tank and it could be DPS. wouldn't know what to base it off of though. I would assume a new class rather than jump up on an old one and double up the Job's standards (Double Tank for Glad or Double DPS for Lancer) Some people wouldn't like them switching up so it would be hard to say how they'd interact with the players.

Judge a dual wielding sword enfeebling tank.

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Originally Posted by BoomerOU

Id rather have a new role (support) and add a Redmage (melee Enfeebler)

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Keep us out this. And "support" would only hurt the game in the long run.

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Originally Posted by Arkista

If they added Ninja I guarantee that a lot of people would play, Hell I would play NIN more than I do my PLD.

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Seeing that taking no damage >>>>>>>>> mitigating damage any day of the week, who can blame you? That said, no, Ninja tanks are iconoclastic to the point they're an eyesore, and I hope they stay in FFXI forever and never darken our doorstep.

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On topic, you can't make a halfway tank because that new tank has to be interchangeable with PLD and WAR. WAR+New Tank and PLD+New Tank has to be as vaible as PLD+WAR currently is. More tanks with different aesthetics and mechanics is something I'm all for. I've mentioned SAM, BST, and Mystic Knight being excellent candidates for tanks with enough flavor to stand apart from PLD and WAR while possibly drawing players to them due to said aesthetics.

As an aside, the bigger problem with tank design moving forward is the inclusion of Hallowed Ground and now Holmgang. There's two possible outcomes to this problem. You're either going to require the new tank to have an invincibility move or will have to nerf Invincible/Hallowed Ground and Holmgang's mitigation. If you were to leave things as they are and NOT implement an invulnerability move, that new tank is going to suffer exactly what WAR went through when ARR launched.

So many negative comments on having more tank classes, I mean do we want 18505508580750768 dps jobs and 2 tank classes forever? You think que times are bad now. I think honestly oneper genre is a good start, muskmusketeer as a dps. Some sort ofhealer and one tank. And please no ninja, a hopolite like suggested above or you could call it a phlanax sounds cool like the Lancer in tera (my main).

I would love another tank class, because I'm not scared of responsibility like most dps players I'm joking... Or am I?

what we really needs is to improve ACTUAL Tanks , to be more fun and engaging , more flashy too

Paladin : u expect a holy warrior , but the FFXIV PLD lacks the holy ....flash looks lackluster to begin with , circle of scorn looks meh , the buffs animations need to be permanent (if i pop sentinel i want to keep that cool blue ward around me until the spell wears off)

a new 3th combo would be nice , maybe a skill that does dmg and put a stoneskin effect on pld or heal the pld , a passive trait that heals the pld on block (heal % based on block strength so a shield that blocks a lot heal for less and a shield that block less heals for a lot)

Warrior : the changes in 2.1 are nice , but change overpower to a a whirlwind attack and see players hop to warrior , when ppl think in GREAT AXE = whirlwind of death! steel cyclone in 1.0 was amazing animation wise.....

IMHO, we need a support/blink tank or a heavy DPS - something that can actually cover for a tank if he/she fails.

We could have something like Cleric Stance for DPS, which turns e.g. a Lancer into a full tank at the cost of attack power and movement speed - or a Monk/Ninja into an master of evasion for 30 seconds.

DPS are too squishy at the moment.

I've despised the idea of a Ninja tank since the begining. I'm surprised SE actually let it happen in XI. Any other game company would have nerfed their tankyness into the ground. They were ment to be a DPS class, not a tank.

people want ninja, in this aoe ridden game? ya watch as all your shadows are blown away faster than yo can cast.

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Originally Posted by Starrywisdom

Ninja just needs to be the next tank. Games lacking an 'evasion' tank - would fill the void and introduce the 'far eastern flair'.

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Game may be lacking evasion tanks for a good reason: they don't work. (Or they are ghods.)