Yup, I call it yolo pulling. Ive just decided that if you pull before I get protect out you aint getting protect or stoneskin. Ive taken to protecting and stone skinning myself when I register for the duty so I don't have to worry about myself. If I see a dps pull I just let them die.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael
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10-07-2014, 08:42 PMIgnnis
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10-07-2014, 11:15 PMSasealI think it's sad that we have to race the players just to get buffs out, as of late. :| It's so stupid. I've never used it for that (I'm in a similar mindset as Ignnis), but even worse that you would be forced to resort to swiftcasting protect, just to get it out before the mass of yolo-ers run away >__< We need nail guns. -_- *Nails entire parties to the floor*Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael
I think the only people I chase down to get protect on are the tanks (and other healer if they end up chasing down the yolo pullers) - but if the fight doesn't let me get in range of them enough without being stupid, then they just don't get it. Dumb, considering they probably need it the most -
10-07-2014, 11:17 PMReilok
Players who don't respond to any sort of communication and tanks who assume everyone is ready for them to pull bosses. Other day the DPS vote out a tank so we continue w/o one and beat a few bosses just me and the 2 dps. then right before the last boss a tank joins in. he literally rushed straight into the boss as soon as he popped in. who does that ? LOL
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10-07-2014, 11:31 PMArtiste
I just did Ullbreaker Isle and I aggroed the big Monkey out of the boss room, he killed me. XD
I have no idea what appened, maybe a bug, or a game design ? Never appened before. -
10-07-2014, 11:39 PMSaseal....I didn't even know that was a thing o.o Bosses can cross the sealed barrier line? o____o *Hopes the trolls don't find out...*Quote:
Originally Posted by Artiste
Edit: THere is a short time where the ape is outside the boss room, come to think of it, when he sees the party coming from OUTSIDE the boss room - then runs away into the boss room... so maybe he's an unforeseen (by the programmers) exception because of that minor background scene? -
10-08-2014, 12:16 AMIgnnisThey can be pulled out the boss run until the room gets sealed off then they teleport back in, saw this happen the other day when we had a brainless tank in brayflox who couldn't wait for anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saseal
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10-08-2014, 02:02 AMSasealInteresting - I'd not known/never seen this o_OQuote:
Originally Posted by Ignnis
How did the tank manage that? Run in without waiting, then try to run back out? xD; -
10-08-2014, 02:11 AMOddThat particular boss waits outside of the sealed barrier until you kill all the right mobs first. I think it's the monkeys. I know I saw this happen when I had a party skip the first set of 3 mobs. I told them we had to kill them, they said no we don't. Then when we killed the two monkey's on the bridge, the gorilla stayed outside, he didn't run in like he normally does. He was invulnerable to our attacks, but would attack us if we approached him. Went to the start and killed the first pack, then when we got back to the boss he was where he should be, waiting to fight us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Artiste
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10-08-2014, 02:28 AMIgnnisPretty much, the healer wanted him booted because it was one of those auto attack only tanks that seem to be in brayflox a lot these days so we just stood there doing a vote kick while he charged on in, agroed the ziz thing then came charging back out with it attached to his leg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saseal
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10-08-2014, 05:16 PMEmeraldAres
Had a tank who thought he was invincible and reminded me of the warrior I got in Pharos months ago.
We enter Halatali HM, and the first thing the tank does is charge and get every single mob in the first part. Really dangerous, but I've survived it before especially with smart use of the spike ball. Naturally, he does not use the spike ball. He starts to drag all of the mobs back up the hill for reasons I can't fathom. He eventually has to stop midway up, and I start healing because he's close to death. I get at least 3 mobs on me and we both start taking damage. I get some holys out and the dps both aoe. We have a dragoon and a bard. One or both of them wasn't prepared for this tactic (or had to dodge too many basilisk body slam aoes), and I have to try and switch back to healing when my holy stun stops working. I can't keep up with the damage, either because the tank isn't geared / using cooldowns right or is getting clipped by aoes. I honestly have no idea. When the mobs are stalled at about 20% life, he dies. I die after, and the two dps follow.
Just like the warrior from months ago, this guy takes off immediately after ressing and leaves the group behind. I'm thinking to myself the exact same thing I thought at that time: If my cooldowns, mana supply, and healing weren't enough the first time, what was going to happen this time with at least half of my mana gone and my cooldowns shot? For some stupid reason, I try to help him through it even though I should reallly be calling him an idiot. Wipe #2, he instantly drops. The guy never said a single word, not even hello. I breathe a sigh of relief and the dps and I talk about how stupid he was as a new tank comes in and we do the run properly. The new tank tells us he has broken gear, which results in some random threat pulls from the rest of the party, but he does surprisingly well despite that. We finish the run before long, and all is well.
What is with this kind of tank? They're a lot rarer since hunts came out, but apparently they still exist. I'm not saying you can't mass pull and aoe, I do that with groups all the time. But if that fails for whatever reason (low dps, poor mitigation/dodging, a mistake on my part), don't try to do it AGAIN when I haven't even recuperated from dying yet. In his rush to go go go, this tank just ended up making himself look stupid and ticked everyone else off. I hope this doesn't happen again for a while.