Sorry, by further sectors I'm referring to those that will be released in 4.4 or 4.5. It was only the last 10 or so sectors that had the surveillance requirements for airships. For now there is no minimum requirement to reach anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quadoline
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07-02-2018, 06:25 PMAlien_Gamer
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07-03-2018, 08:20 AMHalcyonNice what are your ship parts?Quote:
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07-04-2018, 01:49 PMIzayoichan
I'm also fairly bad at understanding schematics and putting the "perfect" sub together, is there someone who has the "right" setup for getting the new items. My setup seems to not be very correct atm :)
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07-05-2018, 02:46 AMDustytomeIf you're only concern the rare items, all unkiu has high surveillance and decent favor. You'll still be fighting with rng, but that should open your chances at the good stuff. You'll be sacrificing retrieval with that build though, which means that you'll get low quantities of anything like materia/materials.Quote:
Originally Posted by Izayoichan
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07-05-2018, 05:31 AMIzayoichanThanks, it's mostly rares I am after, so will swap my builds around a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dustytome
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07-07-2018, 03:09 AMaxemtitanium
Not sure if this was known before, but I just had a sub with full Shark-class parts (30 surveillance) unlock the 3rd submarine slot for us. So I guess surveillance is not required for unlocking that?
Anyway, as you might tell from my noob sub, I'm very unfamiliar with current best practices. Can anyone suggest some good builds for our 3rd sub? -
07-07-2018, 11:18 AMDustytomeIt's just visiting the area that unlocks the slot. As far as builds, whatever you're using for the other two that retrieves what you're after.Quote:
Originally Posted by axemtitanium
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07-19-2018, 12:22 AMLudovikAny Luck with Marine Wax Builds?
Does anyone have any submarine builds that seem to be working on a regular basis to bring back the marine wax? We snagged two on our first and second trips there and now our ships can't seem to get over a C rating and return nearly 1000 Rubies Diamonds and Sapphires by now.
Our Current ships I have us outfitted with after trying to figure out how to do it:
Ship A: Unkiu Hull, Whale Stern, Shark Bow, Shark Bridge (Always C rating)
Ship B: Unkiu Hull, Whale Stern, Shark Bow, Shark Bridge (Always C rating)
Ship C: Unkiu Hull, Unkiu Stern, Unkius Bow, Unkiu Bridge (Has gotten A once)
I have tried to read through the threads for here and for airships to understand the stats and balances needed for good builds for different things (yields, rares, etc) so is it just luck at this point? -
07-19-2018, 08:10 AMMarcellus_Cassius
The last two waxes that I've gotten have been from C rated ventures, the wax was the first and only item and no further items were detected from the sector.
Ship A: 110 Surveillance, 70 Retrieval, 60 Favor
Ship B: 100 Surveillance, 70 Retrieval, 75 Favor. -
07-23-2018, 07:28 AMgeekgirl101
I've been working on a Submersible Log Database based on the Airship Log Database by Neri Feralheart. I've been using it myself to make sure it works as it should, so far seems fine although some of the exp calculations in the master voyage log seem a little off as well as survey/travel time calculations in the trip planner sheets (these were also slightly off on the Airship Log Database due to some randomness between sectors.)
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07-23-2018, 07:54 AMFireyeI've had some good luck with an Unkiu/Whale build, gotten three in the past week, here's the latest two:Quote:
Any Luck with Marine Wax Builds?
https://i.imgur.com/Lrq0qGc.png
My build is Unkiu everything, except for a Whale bridge. That results in 90surv, 55retr, 70 speed, 130 range, 90 favor.
The goal of the build is to go slowly after minions, music and other rare drops. I've been running them on a 5-stop route since I made the upgrades to them a week or two ago:
https://i.imgur.com/XsHn3Q9.png
I've gotten a couple minions after I changed to the above build, and then a two or three of the marine wax. Still have yet to see a colossus slab, darn S-E RNG. -
07-23-2018, 09:43 PMStouterTaruThe survey/travel times are pretty easy to get exact with a speed 5 sub:Quote:
Originally Posted by geekgirl101
ex - going from Ivory Shoals (2) to Cobalt Shoals (12), the travel time in minutes is row 2, column 12 value divided by sub speed (the same travel time exists both ways, so you could also use row 12, column 2). The survey time for Cobalt Shoals (12) in minutes is row 12, column 12 divided by sub speed.Code:1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
Home 1 0 7660 14325 18175 20455 16370 28230 11810 15415 12095 31940 19280 29240 20055 25315 27135
The Ivory Shoals 2 7660 12600 9915 11450 18650 11495 21670 15900 20805 13585 25105 16120 27940 24105 18905 22290
Deep-sea Site 1 3 14325 9915 12600 7070 11205 7570 16850 14725 19970 11575 18770 8225 18650 21290 12795 13305
Deep-sea Site 2 4 18175 11450 7070 16800 16835 6455 14080 20885 26585 16505 14140 10620 23170 27275 7580 12375
The Lightless Basin 5 20455 18650 11205 16835 16800 18285 18390 17285 19485 17685 22655 15160 13110 22015 20345 17045
Deep-sea Site 3 6 16370 11495 7570 6455 18285 21000 20250 17140 23395 11660 18825 6965 22345 22710 10255 12915
The Southern Rimilala Trench 7 28230 21670 16850 14080 18390 20250 21000 31065 35305 28410 10170 21445 26055 37340 14520 17300
The Umbrella Narrow 8 11810 15900 14725 20885 17285 17140 31065 25200 6430 6230 33025 15540 21340 8535 26030 24260
Offender's Rot 9 15415 20805 19970 26585 19485 23395 35305 6430 29400 12615 38185 21265 23350 8460 31830 29390
Neolith Island 10 12095 13585 11575 16505 17685 11660 28410 6230 12615 29400 28880 10680 20825 11630 21055 20005
Unidentified Derelict 11 31940 25105 18770 14140 22655 18825 10170 33025 38185 28880 33600 19420 25560 37995 9140 12295
The Cobalt Shoals 12 19280 16120 8225 10620 15160 6965 21445 15540 21265 10680 19420 33600 15855 19185 11860 9415
The Mystic Basin 13 29240 27940 18650 23170 13110 22345 26055 21340 23350 20825 25560 15855 37800 21205 22990 15620
Deep-sea Site 4 14 20055 24105 21290 27275 22015 22710 37340 8535 8460 11630 37995 19185 21205 42000 30915 27385
The Central Rimilala Trench 15 25315 18905 12795 7580 20345 10255 14520 26030 31830 21055 9140 11860 22990 30915 42000 8225
The Wreckage of Discovery 1 16 27135 22290 13305 12375 17045 12915 17300 24260 29390 20005 12295 9415 15620 27385 8225 46200
So the time of your journey of Ivory Shoals to Cobalt Shoals is [(0,2) + (2,2) + (2,12) + (12,12)] / Sub Speed (this time is in minutes) + 12 hours (there's no return to base time figured in after the last zone, but there's an arbitrary 12 hours added to every journey)
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07-25-2018, 11:55 PMLudovik
Thank you Marcellus and Fireye! I will try some of your suggestions!
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07-26-2018, 02:02 AMROYALnb
Why wouldn't it be a good idea to use every whale part ?
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07-26-2018, 05:59 AMDrWho2010
i don't think the capacity is there for a submarine to be comprised of all whale parts. you have to mix and match some pieces.
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07-26-2018, 06:01 AMDustytomeUnlike airship parts, submersible parts jumble the stats between teirs and the whale parts combined have extremely low surveillance which you need a higher amount of if you want a chance at the rarer items (pets, music sheets, rare materials).Quote:
Originally Posted by ROYALnb
Should be just under the limit if you really wanted to go all whale, but unless you want to be swimming in materials that have been around since HW there's not much point to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrWho2010
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07-26-2018, 07:06 AMLudovik
Which is really quite sad, some of the airship models are very pretty when you build the entire ship - but they are quite bad when built that way it would seem. So until we get airship and submarine "glamours" we will have to settle for the model ones :D
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07-27-2018, 01:44 AMFrysia
What is the suggested setups for rare items? I've been running 115/55/45/130/70 for a couple weeks now and I've yet to get any rare items or get anything over a C rating. Is it suggested to only send to one location at a time or multiple?
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07-27-2018, 01:50 AMDrWho2010
a lot of rare item acquisition is rng dependent on the weather/turbulence conditions when your sub reaches the sector. For example for Colossus Slabs, you hopefully should get one if the report said the seas were clear and calm.
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07-27-2018, 02:04 AMDustytomeSend to multiple locations and make sure to keep up with repairs if the parts are getting low. I may just be paranoid, but I seem to have horrible drops if any of the parts end up depleted by the end of a voyage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frysia
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08-02-2018, 05:54 PMgeekgirl101
btw I've been trying to conjure up certain builds that don't overlap parts and was wondering what you guys think of these 3:
100,90,30,115,65 (Unkiu, Whale, Shark, Shark)
45,75,125,85,75 (Shark, Shark, Unkiu, Unkiu)
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08-02-2018, 06:59 PMAlien_Gamer
I assume the first stat listed is surveillance? If so the second two set ups may not be worthwhile after the next set of nodes is released. I'm expecting a min surveillance requirement similar to airships.
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08-02-2018, 08:30 PMStouterTaru
Low surveillance isn't that bad if you're after the common items. With high retrieval you'll still end up getting two big wads of viviantines or junk materia most of the time.
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08-04-2018, 04:36 AMgeekgirl101
Yeah that's what I thought too. Unfortunately there's not a lot that can be done about the other 2 builds getting severely nerfed surveillance without going about builds using multiples of the same types of hull/rigging since it gets slashed by shark parts. I may have to give up on the idea of trying to make 3 builds using unique parts for each sub.
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08-04-2018, 06:08 AMQueenSophieI don't think the part wear matters at all, in my experience. I have over 30 vessels, and 5 are subs with the good builds for the rare items, and I get Marine Wax Esters, Colossus Slabs, Auriea Polyps, Abyss scrolls etc. whether parts are fulling repaired or depleted after a mission. I dont repair til they are damaged, cause you can send them out as long as they arent damaged, no matter how low the bars are. This way you get your most bang for your buck. I understand what you are saying, but I don't see it reflecting item RNG at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dustytome
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08-18-2018, 04:08 AMAngevinCan you recommend a good build? Right now I have two rank 30 ships and all 3 tiers of parts built. I'd like to be able to mix and match the parts that I have between the two subs for max benefit until I can build enough optimum build parts. Which leads me to my next question: what is the the current optimum build?Quote:
Originally Posted by QueenSophie
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08-18-2018, 07:09 AMAlien_GamerOptimal would depend on your goals. This is what I run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angevin
Uniku Hull
Whale Stern
Shark Bow
Shark Bridge
Surveillance 100
Retrieval 90
Speed 30
Range 115
Favor 65
Speed is my dump stat because I work alot and don't really care how fast they move.
Favor is nice but not a priority.
I like Range to hit more sectors but my primary focus is Surveillance and Retrieval to get the most out of each trip. -
08-18-2018, 07:30 AMAngevinThank you! My goal is getting rare items such as the Marine Wax Ester.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer
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08-18-2018, 07:39 AMAlien_Gamer
There's a lot of RNG involved with what the subs/airships bring back, good luck with your ventures.
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08-29-2018, 03:48 AMAyaria
Since weeks i sent my three submersibles to the spot for collussus slab and i get all but not that item. Anyone has similar experience or a tip how to get that? :D
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08-29-2018, 04:15 AMDustytomeWhat parts are you sending them out with? That slab is one of the harder to get items so it could just be rng, but if you've got low surveillance then you're not going to get it at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ayaria
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09-15-2018, 04:52 AMStouterTaru
Remember to send your subs out on an uber mission asap. The 5 highest ranking destinations give the most exp, and will probably unlock the new zones coming out Tuesday.
Shortest Route, UUUW will get it done in under 3 days 6 hours:
1 - Deep-sea Site 4
2 - The Cobalt Shoals
3 - The Central Rimilala Trench
4 - The Wreckage of Discovery 1
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09-15-2018, 05:32 AMDustytomeWell that's going to be fun. Would be nice if they just told us what sectors got changed.Quote:
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09-18-2018, 09:10 PMCions
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09-18-2018, 09:12 PMPepperPandemic
Found 3 new zones:
Concealed Bay (lv. 37) from Mystic Basin
Deep-sea site 5 (lv. 37) from Wreckage of Discovery I
Komura (lv. 30) from Cobalt Shores
https://imgur.com/8bKTfmY.jpg
https://imgur.com/FR913S7.jpg
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09-18-2018, 09:13 PMStouterTaru
Coelacanth Part list:
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09-18-2018, 09:16 PMStouterTaru
A full Coelacanth sub list:
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48 Aurum Regis Nugget
18 Cassia Lumber
9 Celestine
150 Cobalt Joint Plate
66 Cobalt Plate
120 Cobalt Rivets
30 Dark Chestnut Lumber
18 Darksteel Ingot
186 Darksteel Rivets
9 Garlond Steel
15 Gold Ingot
48 Hardsilver Nugget
12 Larimar
162 Mythrite Ingot
12 Platinum Nugget
48 Rose Gold Ingot
120 Titanium Ingot
6 Topaz
12 Void Glue
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09-19-2018, 12:44 AMAygox
Confirming that Cobalt Shoals opens up Komura;
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09-19-2018, 02:09 AMDustytome
Updated the sub builder. Remember to make a copy of it to make changes. I find the list ones better, but this works until those get updated. :)
edit: Not sure if it's just me, but google docs was lagging a bit. Be sure to double check the stats before committing to a build. -
09-19-2018, 02:42 AMMarcellus_Cassius