~Poll~ Longer fights <Do you want it?>

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Originally Posted by rubina

Why make fights longer with trash? Didn't the original lead Dev saw that the fights were already too long so they decided to reduce them?

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No. The issue was other balance reasons, not the length of battle -- They reduced HP to try to help with the fact you can literally gain 0 SP after a fight and doing say a 40 second battle only to get 0 SP...yeah that didn't work.

Then comes the fact mobs used to run back and regen full HP then come back and charge you while you were beaten and battered -- That was why the HP was reduced on leve mobs.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

No. The issue was other balance reasons, not the length of battle -- They reduced HP to try to help with the fact you can literally gain 0 SP after a fight and doing say a 40 second battle only to get 0 SP...yeah that didn't work.

Then comes the fact mobs used to run back and regen full HP then come back and charge you while you were beaten and battered -- That was why the HP was reduced on leve mobs.

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I think I found the original video from alpha to beta which shows the differences in battle speed.

FINAL FANTASY XIV "Metamorphosis: From Alpha to Beta"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-99sSSS3eP4

Uploaded on Jun 24, 2010

We are happy to call attention to some improvements made in transitioning from the alpha version to the new beta version of FINAL FANTASY XIV. Notice the difference in lighting, the new depth of field effect, and the faster battle system.

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Originally Posted by rubina

I think I found the original video from alpha to beta which shows the differences in battle speed.

FINAL FANTASY XIV "Metamorphosis: From Alpha to Beta"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-99sSSS3eP4

Uploaded on Jun 24, 2010

We are happy to call attention to some improvements made in transitioning from the alpha version to the new beta version of FINAL FANTASY XIV. Notice the difference in lighting, the new depth of field effect, and the faster battle system.

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To be fair, "Faster Battle System" does not equal "Faster Battles."

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Originally Posted by Alerith

To be fair, "Faster Battle System" does not equal "Faster Battles."

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This is the interview that I read back in the day....

JeuxOnline Gamescom Interview with the Developers
Published on 08-24-2010 08:32 PM
http://www.ffxivorigin.com/content/j...evelopers-111/

3. Since the beginning of phase 3, there have been lots of changes. How is tester feedback?

One of the biggest changes was the battle system. I'm sure you have noticed significant changes in speed in the beta version from the alpha test. We have also received lots of feedback in relation to the user interface, especially with the mouse operation system.

Early in FFXIV alpha and beta, the battles were extremely long and rather boring. I was glad to see they sped them up in phase 3. As far as the mouse functionality goes, I would love to see SE implement a hardware mouse at the very least.

i guess necro-posting is the new thing

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Originally Posted by Malix

i guess necro-posting is the new thing

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Hi, you must be new here. This is a Rokien thread.

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Originally Posted by rubina

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One of the biggest changes was the battle system. I'm sure you have noticed significant changes in speed in the beta version from the alpha test. We have also received lots of feedback in relation to the user interface, especially with the mouse operation system.

Early in FFXIV alpha and beta, the battles were extremely long and rather boring. I was glad to see they sped them up in phase 3. As far as the mouse functionality goes, I would love to see SE implement a hardware mouse at the very least.

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I have to agree with someone you did say, "Faster Battle system doesn't necessarily mean faster battles". If a battle is long and boring then not much work has gone into the development/ design of that battle or enemy hence the meaning of poor AI/ mob behavior.

Adding more HP isn't good design. Unique behavior and enemy AI plays a part in interesting battles. It's a gamble when taking on a "even match" or something worse. Minions shouldn't be all that challenging compared to Notorious Monsters and bosses. I'm referring to "Long & Boring" VS "Fast & Furious" which could almost result in becoming boring too. Lesser mobs shouldn't be as weak in big number as they are now. The AI for every mob in the game is pretty much the same causing the MMO to feel flat and un-exciting. Shame no one will remember to low level events, monsters or areas because everyone is rushing to the top.