Ifrit Fight

The weapons look beautiful Square-Enix. I look forward to obtaining them. I think most of people's disagreement with the weapons are the sizes. The bow and knuckles' large size compared to the player character does make it looked a little unbalanced. Other than that, I can see a lot of time went into developing these unique weapons for us. I love the lava effect. Great work.

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Originally Posted by Foxclon

Hi all,

Some of you may be interested in what loot you can obtain upon victory.
Enjoy the below trailer featuring Ifrit loot!

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wheres the harp in that bow? or is it with flame strings?

LOL at all the people whining about the weapons, I'm kind of glad they are bringing out something unique looking, although the bow is a little over the top.

I just hope they start to add some more colourful robes and armour choices now.

I will laugh if the text for these weapons turns out "purple"

It has come to our attention that after the next patch, the Garlean Empire will revert to using regular guns and swords. Their Imperial Juggernauts will be switched over for nazi tanks.

Additionally, Conjurer will be renamed "Fireworks guy" and will no longer cast "magicks", instead resorting to using pyrotechnic equipment for his attacks . The "Cure" spell will call 911 and have a 30 minute cast time.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

From the looks of it they are trying to use cheap tricks to appeal to the audience. They seem to think their previous endeavours couldn't pull it off by having consistent, classy and somewhat realistic art direction so now we get attempts to look "cooler" by making humongous weapons that shoot lasers, fights that are inconsistent with the lore and systems that make fun of the lore (because they have been implemented from a "gameplay first, lore second" standpoint)- like, say, "building a stronger emotional attachment to your armor in which case it can be converted into MATERIA" (MATERIA like in FINAL FANTASY SEVEN, ye hear me?!). What the hell is this crap? Like, you start loving your pants sooo much that by the power of Gray Skull you can magically turn them into a gem? But did I already mentioned MATERIA?

It's easy to realize which part of the system was an afterthought. I feel sorry for the lore-masters.

There's some feedback Foxclon!

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Just quit already will you? I can't wait for the day they start charging so people like you disappear and quit whining at every little thing.

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Originally Posted by AdvancedWind

It has come to our attention that after the next patch, the Garlean Empire will revert to using regular guns and swords. Their Imperial Juggernauts will be switched over for nazi tanks.

Additionally, Conjurer will be renamed "Fireworks guy" and will no longer cast "magicks", instead resorting to using pyrotechnic equipment for his attacks . The "Cure" spell will call 911 and have a 30 minute cast time.

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I wish they added a 'LOL!' button next to the 'Like' button 'cos I'd be pressing it quite a lot XD

Awesome (b'.')b

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

From the looks of it they are trying to use cheap tricks to appeal to the audience. They seem to think their previous endeavours couldn't pull it off by having consistent, classy and somewhat realistic art direction so now we get attempts to look "cooler" by making humongous weapons that shoot lasers!

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And black mages, and ninjas, blackmage ninjas, and beastmasters with crabs that shoot laser-beams from their eyes!

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

From the looks of it they are trying to use cheap tricks to appeal to the audience.

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If they were really doing that my miqo'tes boobs would be bigger than her head.

*waves to TERA*

Like the weapons I would of like it to been more related to the power of the echo. When you defeated ifrit you gain his essence of fire attribute and attack up trait and can be an activated power that can be put on any weapon given the current glow we see from video. To me that gives a uniqueness a more sense of connection to the lore and depth to this game but ill take what given to me :P

People complaining that new weapons aren't realistic enough.
Seriously, go die in a bus fire.

This is a goddamn game.
You're a fighting a huge *** fire spitting monster.

Go buy yourself a Katana and put it in your shelf if you want a more realistic weapon to admire.

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Originally Posted by Sagagemini

People complaining that new weapons aren't realistic enough.
Seriously, go die in a bus fire.

This is a goddamn game.
You're a fighting a huge *** fire spitting monster.

Go buy yourself a Katana and put it in your shelf if you want a more realistic weapon to admire.

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woah woah woah take a chill-pill.

I think some of the confusion here stems from much of the aquirable clothing and weaponry so far looking very realistic in appearance, so suddenly having rather large shiny glowey stabby things that don't have a great deal of realism to them comes as a bit of a shock to some players.

They'll grow to like it though, or not, but if you're enjoying the game why let something as simple as a glow effect or a super-size-me weapon ruin it for you yeah? I'm sure with the materia system you'll be able to buff up a craftable weapon to be just as good as a primal weapon drop so it's no big deal.

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

woah woah woah take a chill-pill.

I think some of the confusion here stems from much of the aquirable clothing and weaponry so far looking very realistic in appearance, so suddenly having rather large shiny glowey stabby things that don't have a great deal of realism to them comes as a bit of a shock to some players.

They'll grow to like it though, or not, but if you're enjoying the game why let something as simple as a glow effect or a super-size-me weapon ruin it for you yeah? I'm sure with the materia system you'll be able to buff up a craftable weapon to be just as good as a primal weapon drop so it's no big deal.

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Yea, i know what you mean.
But some people are like: "OMG They are ruining the game!!" lol
C'mon, they are finally giving us some unique equipment!

This weapons look great, I do hope the dev team is prompt to ignore general negativity.

/thumbsup

Keep them coming.

I don't understand the hate.

The item is from freakin Ifrit. If you've even seen Ifrit in the cutscenes, its only rightful these weapons have a fiery glow on them. Heck its not even a glow, its more of a skin glow where the horn part of the item is only glowing (save for the THM weapon with the glowing gemstone).

I'm all for more livelier weapons.

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Originally Posted by Darte

I don't understand the hate.

The item is from freakin Ifrit. If you've even seen Ifrit in the cutscenes, its only rightful these weapons have a fiery glow on them. Heck its not even a glow, its more of a skin glow where the horn part of the item is only glowing (save for the THM weapon with the glowing gemstone).

I'm all for more livelier weapons.

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If you look a bit more carefully most of the issue is with shape/size not the glow..
That has actually been done a in a really tasteful way for a glow effect especially with it only showing when active not passive.. (imo at least)

Given how other weaspons are styled i think the models could have been better, some/most are just a bit chunky and imo a little tacky, i was really hoping for the style to be more along the lines of those ones on the magazine with the BowHarp on..

I can see some of the ones saying they hate these weapons getting them once 1.19 is released and then changing their tune and going "actually... these look really good!" XD

nice weapons, cool graphic effects on them.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Constructive criticism means pointing out the positive along with the negative.

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Constructive criticism means explaining your criticism and perhaps offering solutions. You don't need to say anything positive for it to be constructive.

I'm not a movie critic.

8 likes? Jesus Christ.

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is it any surprise to you when people make the assumption that all you do is whine and complain?

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It's not a surprise at all, never said it was. But that shouldn't even matter and there should be no one telling me to go away because of those false perceptions.

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If SE isn't being told when they're doing something right, how do they know anything they do is being done right?

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Because players don't complain about it, they did it right. Very simple and self-explanatory.

You want to make it about the company's interests but this has nothing to do with the company. You acted on emotion and that is because you have a problem with people criticising the game instead of saying good things about it. The company won't benefit from that, but you will feel better. That's what this is about, so stop using SE as an excuse to justify your reaction.

Saying things like:

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

What the hell is this crap?

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and:

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

If you had to outsource your development to Korea, you could have at least told us.

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is not "constructive" in any sense of the word.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Saying things like:

and:

is not "constructive" in any sense of the word.

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I use colourful language in my posts, what can I say.

Said posts are full of constructive criticism, and especially that second quote of yours hits the nail in the head with the Korea reference. Looking at any Korean MMO shows you why. The similarities are apparent.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Feedback:

They are too over-the-top. Especially the bow. Good bye classiness, was nice knowing ya!

If you had to outsource your development to Korea, you could have at least told us.

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The sword and axe look like something from FFIX, so i'm fine with it.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

I use colourful language in my posts, what can I say.

Said posts are full of constructive criticism, and especially that second quote of yours hits the nail in the head with the Korea reference. Looking at any Korean MMO shows you why. The similarities are apparent.

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And reading how I explained that Korean MMO weaponry design is based on korean anime which is based on japanese anime designs also explains why the weapons look like that in the first place.

These aren't korean weapon designs, they are japanese fantasy anime weapon designs, just because koreans stole the idea doesn't instantly make all weapons that look like that theirs.

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Originally Posted by Teknoman

The sword and axe look like something from FFIX, so i'm fine with it.

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Fortunately I can certainly relate the chibi characters with that of XIV's chibi-hyurs and the like, so it certainly makes sense to have similar weapons around in both games.

The problem isn't the origins of the design.

Stylish or not, it's just very impressive.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

The problem isn't the origins of the design.

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The problem is that there's no problem, so the usual people need to find an excuse to rant about :D

There wasn't a problem in Summer 2010 either. Everything was "just fine" and everyone was finding "excuses to rant".

I'm so glad we had a defence force taking care of the people talking about "non-existant problems" back then, and that the torch has been passed along to the next generation.

Omg I want all this gear and yea it reminds me of MH I loved MH

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

There wasn't a problem in Summer 2010 either. Everything was "just fine" and everyone was finding "excuses to rant".

I'm so glad we had a defence force taking care of the people talking about "non-existant problems" back then, and that the torch has been passed along to the next generation.

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Yeah because without the people that liked the game back then (not that it has absolutely anything to do with the look of weapons, by the way, you sure love to compare apple to oranges), they would have listened to you, and if they did, the game would be great... SUUUURE :D

Keep daydreaming mate.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

Yeah because without the people that liked the game back then , they would have listened to you, and if they did, the game would be great... SUUUURE :D

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As unlikely as it is, it is still more likely than if the 'fans' were around shutting down every criticism anyone may have had with the game back then.

Nothing is different and you are the cancer this time.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Fortunately I can certainly relate the chibi characters with that of XIV's chibi-hyurs and the like, so it certainly makes sense to have similar weapons around in both games.

The problem isn't the origins of the design.

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OMG you just reminded me female Hyurs have 'the mikuru run' (Mikuru is the one with orange hair :p)

I'm..... gonna go roll a Hyur now.... >.>'

*creeps away*

Like I said in the other thread, they only glow when you take it out.
Do like.

Also, the Bow is absolutely beautiful.

As some are mentioning, I do hope we don't get an overflow of this type of gear, but I don't see how it hurts when its just on the special gear received from bosses. I'd love if any future gear that glows, whether armor or weapons, also only glow when in active mode.

my only complaint about the weapons is the thickness of the Bow and pretty much the entire look of the scepter. the scepter is just ugly lol its just a horn and a blue ball... for some reason the ball is blue.

a lot of the scepters have that ball so i get that part, but why blue? it just looks weird to me.
also, if you notice the staff has a plant growing out of it, i dont know how i feel about that part either.
i actually like the H2H weapon and the sword is not too big at all in my opinion.
i also hope that our next wave of gear is much more alive and colorful like these weapons.

as far the glow goes, id like to see glow only for HQ items for certain items below R50, that way glow is only reserved for certain endgame and specialized gear minimizing oversaturation.

Fire can be blue.

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

Fire can be blue.

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fire can be lots of colors, but ifrit is not.
there can be a few explanations as to why the ball is blue, but none of the other weapons incorporate a second prominent color.

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Originally Posted by Dreadnought

fire can be lots of colors, but ifrit is not.
there can be a few explanations as to why the ball is blue, but none of the other weapons incorporate a second prominent color.

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he does breathe a blue flame....

Eh... the weapons look a bit silly in my opinion, but to each their own.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Fortunately I can certainly relate the chibi characters with that of XIV's chibi-hyurs and the like, so it certainly makes sense to have similar weapons around in both games.

The problem isn't the origins of the design.

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Aw you know what I mean:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xa1Hxz6zNg

The elaborate style of the weapons. Really similar to every 3D FF titles thats come out aside from XI, maybe XII, and XIII.

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Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess

he does breathe a blue flame....

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oh does he? i didnt notice, again though aesthetically in fashion it would not be called cohesive and a poor choice in color scheme. thats just how my eye sees things i guess.
but everything else looks fantastic! cant wait!

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Originally Posted by Teknoman

Aw you know what I mean:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xa1Hxz6zNg

The elaborate style of the weapons. Really similar to every 3D FF titles thats come out aside from XI, maybe XII, and XIII.

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FFXI was my first reall MMO and the one i played the longest by far, but i never for the life of me could figure out where the design team got its aesthetic.
FFXI overall to this day does not look like a Final Fantasy title to me. FFXI is the most subdued game out of the entire franchise.
according to concept art even the earliest final fantasies incorporated more visual ideas than FFXI.

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Originally Posted by Dreadnought

oh does he? i didnt notice, again though aesthetically in fashion it would not be called cohesive and a poor choice in color scheme. thats just how my eye sees things i guess.
but everything else looks fantastic! cant wait!

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If I remember correctly blue flames are caused by a fire that's not as hot as an orange flame, usually you see it as a fire is almost burnt out, or at the base of bunsen burners also as that's where the gas is projected from before it's set alight (so it hasn't built to full heat to become orange untill further into the flame), so if we were to look at it in a realistic sense, every time Ifrit breathed fire or used his 'hellfire' skill, there would be blue fire mixed in with the orange fire.

There is also white fire but that is from a flame that is hotter than orange fire, which would look kind of weird (people would mistake it for holy or something ;) )