no.......?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigmakan
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08-01-2011, 02:06 AMRichardd
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08-01-2011, 02:09 AMAndraQuote:
Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat
You have to wait before killing Shaula, she'll spawn two suitors, if you don't kill them before you kill her you won't get the last chest.Quote:
Originally Posted by akumutensai
I doubt it is -this- condition? Or maybe it is? Or was akumutensai talking about another 5th chest?Quote:
Originally Posted by Richardd
~Me wants to know - because me wants bow! :D -
08-01-2011, 02:16 AMDoctorMog
Batraal chest pop conditions:
Chest 1: Open the Chocobo Stables and Kill whats inside (not sure if you HAVE to kill everything, or just open the door.)
Chest 2: Open the Drake Room (and get the chest?)
Chest 3: Get all Chests
Chest 4: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Chest 5: Kill Batraal. -
08-01-2011, 02:17 AMSigmakanOh . . . for toto-rak it was killing the suitors. The eyes seemed fairly analogous to those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richardd
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08-01-2011, 02:17 AMRichardd
it's the same time condition
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08-01-2011, 02:27 AMVladimir_DevoraI'm a little confused by this because I've gotten the 5th chest in toto-rak not only on Shaula but on the other 2 bosses who don't have suitors to be killed during the fight. That's why i was sure it had to do with the time limit. So is it just that you have to kill all the other spawns during the boss fight before killing the boss? I guess it's possible we did this in toto-rak without realizing it...Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat
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08-01-2011, 02:28 AMRicharddBlue Chest 1: Kill mobs in chocobo stablesQuote:
Originally Posted by DoctorMog
Blue Chest 2: Pop all blue lights
Gold Chest 3: Kill Batraal
Blue Chest 4: Time condition
Blue Chest 5: Get all chests -
08-01-2011, 02:29 AMDoctorMogQuote:
Originally Posted by Richardd
We did a run last night. Killed him with 30 minutes remaining.
how is that possible? -
08-01-2011, 02:33 AMKiaraDoctorMog,Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorMog
Didn't someone say in another thread that Totorak's Time Condition was clearing it in *20*(!) Minutes? Yikes. So if it's the same, that would mean clearing Dzemael in 20 minutes or less? -
08-01-2011, 02:34 AMRicharddbecause its a time condition that is below 30 minutes ^ ~ ^ (it's the same as toto-rak) and no it's not impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorMog
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08-01-2011, 02:37 AMDoctorMog
If clearing the place in 20 minutes is the last chest, By damn that is going to be hard...
We skipped EVERYTHING we could and had no deaths, killed both bosses in mad time...
Jesus...
Just running to ogre is 5-7 minutes,
killing it is another 7
opening drake, killing drakes, popping skellies, killing skellies, getting captain chest, and back into batraals room - 10 minutes
Killing Batraal 5-10 minutes
We got it down to 30 minutes.. but 20?
o.O
Did they skip all chests? Skip opening drake? Run straight to 4 blues in skelly and AOE down the set?
To get chest 4, you must have to skip all others or something. -
08-01-2011, 02:42 AMRicharddfrom what we know, it's clearing it in < 25 minutes. Making sure everyone has Quickstride and using them at the same time when Bowmanship traited CON/THM cooldown is up, skipping all extra lights/rooms and AoEing the full skeleton pack should get you to Batraal with 45~48 minutes left on the dungeon clock. The rest from there is ez pz.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorMog
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08-01-2011, 02:45 AMsammmmmyyy
so would that mean you can skip other chests to save time, to get that 1 chest to pop?
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08-01-2011, 02:45 AMRicharddcorrect, there is no need to grab the others if you only want sword/bow chest.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammmmmyyy
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08-01-2011, 02:48 AMDoctorMogWell sir, gonna try it now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richardd
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08-01-2011, 02:51 AMWenisDee
confirming it and not having done it yourself? lol
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08-01-2011, 02:52 AMDoctorMogIll be doing it, Ill let you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by WenisDee
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08-01-2011, 02:53 AMRicharddUnlike Semper Fidelis, there are people in the community who HAVE done it and have shared the information to be helpful. LOL at trying to horde a strategy on a boss you didn't even kill first, and for gear that doesn't even matter for the progression that isn't even in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by WenisDee
edit** and lol why am I even calling it a strategy? -
08-01-2011, 02:54 AMBlackomegaKingofwaffles
Decided against releasing the video but it is time based we killed it for realz so we know, no speculation here.
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08-01-2011, 02:58 AMDoctorMogThank you sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackomegaKingofwaffles
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08-01-2011, 02:59 AMZdenka
7 mages, chain sleeping everything OTW to Ogre would take about 4 minutes I think. (Would only need to slot Sac2/3 Cure2/3, Quickstride, Banish 2, Scourge 2, Sleep?)
quick swap to jobs for Ogre (Arc's or w/e), kill it ~7 minutes leaving 49 left, swap to mages -> Run past the 8 ghost + toad? or AE one group down and run past others... unsure. Pop Circles -> 7 mages AE on skulls <1m.
I forgot if its the Ghosts of Skulls that can be slept...
I'd give it at 45m left for Bartaal, I'd suggest just offtanking last set of 3 skeletons too picked up on 2 DPS? Or just have 1 extra THM try to take them all and Deflection,Aegis Boon, Nuke / Heal through them... Not exactly sure but trying to save some time
Possibly kill all 3 by grouping them up and AEing them down also. I think they got like 20,000 HP or so.
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08-01-2011, 03:06 AMAndraGood luck to you! I really would like to have this confirmed by someone else if this damn-hard-condition is really true. I just can't / don't want to believe this is true. Those kind of speed-runs only favour specific kinds of jobs. What if you only have a LNC50 or MRD50? "Can i join?" - "No, you don't do enough DMG/AoE-DMG, sorry. THM/ARC only." Yeah. Hurray! \>_</Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorMog
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08-01-2011, 03:08 AMRicharddit can easily be done with Melee in the group, no doubt. + MRD tank on Batraal is a faster kill in the long run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andra
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08-01-2011, 03:14 AMKingZeus
Here is the end of our video which confirms the 5th chest :)
confirmed with 35+ minutes on the clock. :)
good luck all! :)
http://www.youtube.com/user/IseeWhiteDots -
08-01-2011, 03:18 AMKiara
Congratulations KingZeus. :) Good job!
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08-01-2011, 03:18 AMDoctorMogQuote:
Originally Posted by KingZeus
Your video doesnt have a finish timer.
Just video of after the cutscene with the chest.
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08-01-2011, 03:20 AMKingZeusThe end of the video shows part of strategy, so we chose to cut it out at that death scene.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorMog
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08-01-2011, 03:20 AMDoctorMogSo you would show HOW to get the final chest but NOT the strat for the boss?Quote:
Originally Posted by KingZeus
The last 5 seconds of your boss kill shows some strat that you cant share?
Smells like trolling.
Either way, Ill do it and confirm with real video shortly. -
08-01-2011, 03:21 AMAndraYeah. Okay. This video confirmes that you got the 5th chest and that you skipped all the other chests. But it dosn't confirm that you had 35 minutes left. Or am i blind?Quote:
Originally Posted by KingZeus
Sorry i'm doubtfully. But on this forum there are way to many posers and trolls and such and by now i tend to believe only stuff that is really confirmed.
Congrats though on getting the 5th chest. And yes, i really mean that.
But seeing how much time people spend by now to figure this out, it would be nice if there would be more people like DoctorMog who just share their strategys and findings. But so far we only have words and a video of the 5th chest. So yeah... guess we've to wait for DoctorMog and/or someone else to confirm the 35 minute theory. -
08-01-2011, 03:21 AMRicharddlmao - don't worry it's not a troll. Also on a side note, 3 days ago when everyone did their < 30min clears, shame on all of us for not going for a faster time instead of moving onto other MORE LIKELY strategies.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorMog
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08-01-2011, 03:21 AMPhrozen
what happened to the JP group that was doing it within 20min that everyone was talking about?
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08-01-2011, 03:22 AMKingZeusWe confirmed that it's 35+. Obviously the strategy for the boss is killing it fast with that much time remaining. What more do you want from that? Thought you were being nice at first...Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorMog
Strategy is, kill it fast.
Good luck all :) -
08-01-2011, 03:24 AMDoctorMog
I am being nice ^^
I am just super flustered that if what you say is true, why does it feel so.... odd...
Anyway, grats ^^ -
08-01-2011, 03:26 AMZdenkaQuote:
Originally Posted by KingZeus
They used 2 MRDs from the video, probably one to just offtank the last wave (or more) of skeletons to save 1-3ish minutes on the timer considering MRD is the best threat generation of all classes and Storm's Path.
You'd probably see skeletons remaining in that 5s that they don't want you to see, or a place where you can tank Bartaal where Ghosts don't float etc.
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08-01-2011, 03:30 AMRichardd
MRD tank on Batraal will always provide a faster kill, and being able to keep the immunity shield down 99% of the time helps as well. Clumping up the adds takes about 15~20 seconds to kill so once you get to Batraal with 45 mins left on the timer - you're golden.
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08-01-2011, 03:31 AMDoctorMog
Richardd, I'm told you/bluegarter haven't gotten the 4th chest yourself,
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08-01-2011, 03:34 AMRichardd1) our first run started @ 1:00PM EST, so roughly a little over an hour ago and no, you're correct, we didn't clear our first attempt TODAY in 35:00 - but why does this matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorMog
2) Semper Fidelis is not the only LS on rabanstre who has gotten the 4th chest, and our confirmation came from a JP friend in the other LS that got it.
3) why do I have a reason to troll or lie? I'm not the one hording information on 2 R/EX weapons.
It is 100% kill batraal with 35:00 or less on the clock. You will see it soon enough -
08-01-2011, 03:47 AMDoctorMog
Please, no offense.
I am just wanting a 2nd source.
GL ^^ -
08-01-2011, 03:48 AMRaikki
I have to ask, are the hardcore LSes happy that this is the answer? If so, I guess I can live with it. However, it's pretty crappy in my opinion. Why make the weapons for 2 classes immensely harder to get than the other 5? Why further promote class stacking? Also, there were so many more creative ideas in this thread for unlocking it that it's hard not to be disappointed. Oh well, congrats to everyone who accomplishes it nonetheless.
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08-01-2011, 03:49 AMDoctorMog
Ill bet a million gil the Devs use some of our ideas in the next dungeon ^^