Desynthesis Endgame Guide

guess first page needs to be updated. Says artisian gear can be desynthed. :(

For information, the new Aetherial Wheels are desynthable and are i70. They're pretty cheap to make, cheaper/as cheap as Giantsgall weapons, so semi decent way to get up to 80ish skill. Sadly still nothing for 80-110 other than Perfect Pounce or farming drops and Perfect Pounce is still kinda expensive on my server. "Positive" side I guess is that you don't need high level alchemy for anything since there's nothing good to desynth anyway.

Has anyone found good items to level up for Weaver and Goldsmith to get from 100 to > 110?

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Originally Posted by Bumstead

So is there a reason that you can't desynth any of the new artisan gear? I bought the gown thinking you could desynth them like the glasses but there's no option. Had someone buy the CRP shoes too and same thing.

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Wait, what? Seriously? What the heck? That makes no sense >_< Sorry for the bad info in this guide - I assumed the logical, that these were introduced so all desynth classes (except CUL and the unloved ALC) had access to MCDs.


EDIT: OP updated. Sorry again for the misinformation! I really don't get why this decision was made, and I sincerely hope it changes in a future patch. While I'm a GSM/BSM desynth and not affected by that decision directly, I loathe spamming turnins for MCDs and just want the MCD market to crash. That way, I can buy them cheaply off the MB and make the other half of my artisan/forager tools :P

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Originally Posted by Kiara

Has anyone found good items to level up for Weaver and Goldsmith to get from 100 to > 110?

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GSM: Hero's jewelry (r90) from 2.4 dungeons, new r100 jewelry from the 2.5 dungeons, First Coil jewelry drops.

For crafted items, you could try the Carbuncle Chronometer again. That should cost about 30k to make. The Garden Ponds aren't a bad choice either, but depends on how much 4x Terminus Putty is on your server. The best bet though is likely the Furnace Rings - the Belah'dian Silver is practically free on my server, it's not that hard to get Aged Eyes of Fire, and Basilisk Whetstones are pretty cheap to get/make. The items you get back from it though are usually garbage from what I remember. If I get home before someone on my server reads this (or has thought of this), I'm going to buy out all the belah silver and try it :P


WVR: Myth gear (r90) from the 2.4 dungeons (SCH/NIN hat, MNK/BRD/WMN/SCH/SMN body, WHM/SMN gloves, almost all pants (not PLD/DRG)), new r100 gear from the 2.5 dungeons (BRD/Healer/Caster belt, BRD hat, Healer/Caster body, all non-tank pants), some ST gear (BRD belt, BRD arms, Tank pants).

You can also spam Turn 4 as a Healer or Caster as there are two drops for each there that are r90 WVR desynth.

For crafted, what's the price of Dress Materials on your server? Spring Dress Shoes may be great if Dress Materials are cheap enough. They're just a Hard Hippogryph Leather, Dress Materials, and Twinthread. On my server, they should cost about 20k to make - not bad for an r90 desynth fodder. Perfect Cloth may be even cheaper. That's just 2x Pumice and 1x Stained Cloth. No clue what the prices for that are though. Perfect Cloth will likely give you back random garbage from what I recall.


Also, keep in mind that you can go run the 2.3 dungeons (Hulbreaker, Tam-Tara HM, SV HM) for r80 items too. r80 won't give you as much as r90 or r100, but you will have a greater desynth success rate.


When I have some time to test stuff, I'll throw up the 100->110 recommendations. Basically, at dSkill 100, you should get 0 exp from r70 items (if this is wrong, please let me know!), about 0.05-0.1 from r80, about 0.2-0.3 from r90, and about 0.3-0.4 from r100. r80 has an 85% chance, r90 has a 70% chance, and r100 has a 50% chance. r90 is likely your best bet.

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Originally Posted by Mycah

Anyone know if bridesmaid's sandals and best man's gaiters are still the best for FC3's or am I just having incredibly bad (and expensive) luck?

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Hi Mycah. I can definitely confirm that FC IIIs still come from wedding gear. Went home at lunch and bought almost 100 sandals and desynthed them. Got 20 FC IIIs. RNG stinks sometimes. Maybe lunch time is the secret. :)

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Originally Posted by rojen

Hi Mycah. I can definitely confirm that FC IIIs still come from wedding gear. Went home at lunch and bought almost 100 sandals and desynthed them. Got 20 FC IIIs. RNG stinks sometimes. Maybe lunch time is the secret. :)

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Just be warned that, at least on my server, people who appear to be bots have started desynthing these. Or at least, people running bot/autoclick programs - extremely precise timing and motions, there 24/7, in "Busy" status, does not respond to chat, etc. It's very noticable when they have idle animations set - at the same precise point in the idle animation, they do a given action, exactly every time, such that coming back eight hours later, it was still the same timing. No human is that precise.

MB value has dropped on my server to 30k due to massive oversaturation by this one possible-bot. My math says that they cost on average 36k each to make, minus whatever you get from the other stuff you can get like Hard Hippogryph Leather and Spruce Lumber/Undyed Woolen Cloth. Getting 20 FC3s out of 100 tries is actually better than what I think is average still - I see average as 1 out of every 6, and that's 1 out of 5.

I can confirm Aetherial Wheels can drop FC IIIs, but not sure about the drop rate. Crafted about 30 of them and got 4 FC IIIs, so it may be bad luck, or low drop rate.

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Originally Posted by Bardox

I can confirm Aetherial Wheels can drop FC IIIs, but not sure about the drop rate. Crafted about 30 of them and got 4 FC IIIs, so it may be bad luck, or low drop rate.

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While slightly below average, that's well within the variance for all other r70 items. Average would be 5 FC3s from 30 wheels.

Is there a reason to use WVR to desyn those wedding stuff over LTW? I have 70 WVR and I don't really feel like wasting my time leveling up LTW.

Does anyone have high enough dCUL to tear apart a "Better Crowned Pie"?

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Originally Posted by DeorNitengael

Is there a reason to use WVR to desyn those wedding stuff over LTW? I have 70 WVR and I don't really feel like wasting my time leveling up LTW.

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The WVR pieces are more expensive than the LTW ones, and thus it's more costly per Fieldcraft III, but the Vanya cloth is both much more heavily in demand and much more valuable. dLTW will save a bit of money, but unless you intend to desynth for Allagan Leather or make a truly massive number of FCIIIs, dWVR will do fine. This is especially true for the larger servers, where FCIII are selling just barely over cost anyway.

Awesome! I never noticed the Better Crowned Pies were desynthable. That's interesting. They're r110 though, so that's going to be hard to desynth. My wife just bought one from the MB and tried (with a 22.5% chance), and succeeded! It gave... an Electrum Ring. Wait, what? The description says it was "Baked using Talan's own special recipe." And then we find rings in the pie, and suddenly Sweeny Todd comes to mind ("Have a Little Priest" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnnVd3wgTX0). Now my wife is shouting, "OMG! PIES ARE PEOPLE!" It also gave a Water Cluster. The important part (for us) is, it gave her 0.7 desynth skill. Not bad for an item that only costs two leve allowances.

Now to find the cheapest level 45 tradecraft levequest... Or, better yet, get them for free via level 45 BTN/MIN/FSH leves!

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Originally Posted by DeorNitengael

Is there a reason to use WVR to desyn those wedding stuff over LTW? I have 70 WVR and I don't really feel like wasting my time leveling up LTW.

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What Gry'wo said. I did the math for my server, and Bridesmaid's Sandals (LTW desynth) gives on average 2700 gil profit for every item desynthed. Bridesmaid's Tights (WVR desynth) gives on average 6,000 gil profit for every item desynthed. Meaning, WVR is currently twice as good for making money as LTW timewise and the same profit per gil invested. Of course, Twinthread is 3k NQ, 8k HQ on my server right now... Not sure what spiked it from it's old value of 1k/2k, or how long it'll stay that high.

Mastercraft Demimateria have spiked on at least a couple servers, a good deal of the Twinthread is going to Silver Brocade and Artisan Needle crunching. With Sealant prices dropping dramatically, there's gonna be a lot more demand for Forager's, Artisan's, and Supra upgrades.

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

Now to find the cheapest level 45 tradecraft levequest... Or, better yet, get them for free via level 45 BTN/MIN/FSH leves!

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The FSH levequests are pretty expensive right now -- even Ishguardian Bass are going for a lot on the market boards, and most of the other FSH leves are worse. Miner/Botanist are probably the cheapest options if you're in the right level range. May be worth carrying the stuff to do CUL's Mulled Tea and Button in a Blanket, and GSM's Electrum Needle and Amber Ring, since I /have/ seen points where all of the gathering leves were not awarding tokens. Most of the other options are either 3x turnins or require many more intermediate crafts.

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Originally Posted by GrywoTosk

Mastercraft Demimateria have spiked on at least a couple servers, a good deal of the Twinthread is going to Silver Brocade and Artisan Needle crunching. With Sealant prices dropping dramatically, there's gonna be a lot more demand for Forager's, Artisan's, and Supra upgrades.

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Ah, makes sense. Thanks! Also, that's more support for the idea that BSM desynth (CRP turn-ins) is the best for MCDs due to the overabundance of Spruce Lumber from LTW desynth (the only other ingredient is essentially buyable from the Kobold vendor). I should finish getting my BSM desynth up now that we can max three crafts - I've been stuck in the high 80s forever.

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Originally Posted by GrywoTosk

The FSH levequests are pretty expensive right now -- even Ishguardian Bass are going for a lot on the market boards, and most of the other FSH leves are worse. Miner/Botanist are probably the cheapest options if you're in the right level range. May be worth carrying the stuff to do CUL's Mulled Tea and Button in a Blanket, and GSM's Electrum Needle and Amber Ring, since I /have/ seen points where all of the gathering leves were not awarding tokens. Most of the other options are either 3x turnins or require many more intermediate crafts.

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Very good advice! Huh, that's also a good way to make money for level 45+ FSH. I haven't done the math yet, but the LTW options aren't bad (Hunting Moccasins and Raptorskin Thighboots). Last I checked, they about as cheap to make as the CUL, which were selling for 10k+ on the MB. I'll do the math soon.

As a followup: If you're collecting Better Crowned Pies for CUL desynth (and you're on my server, no clue what prices are on other servers), the cheapest leves to use (apart from BTN/MIN leves) are:

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Class  Item                        Type    Location      Cost
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CUL    Mulled Tea                  Single  Coinach        1,668
ALC    3x Potent Silencing Potion  Single  Coinach        1,764
CUL    Crowned Pie                Courier Limsa->Coinach 1,914
ARM    Cobalt Plate                Single  Limsa          2,000
ALC    3x Potent Sleeping Potion  Courier Uldah->Coinach 2,024
ALC    3x Potent Poisoning Potion  Single  Coinach        2,024
CUL    Buttons in a Blanket        Single  Coinach        2,279

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After that, it goes up to 3.2k (Deviled Eggs) and up from there. WVR is the worst for this, by the way - the cheapest WVR leve level 45 leve right now is 7,886! But anyway, 3.3k-4.5k per r110 desynth makes CUL the easiest class to get from 95 to 110. Assuming, of course, you don't care about your leve allowances.

Alternatively, if you don't want to spend leve allowances on this (or are out), you can also use 3,600 GC seals per Better Crowned Pie. As a 1* BTN and level 50 ALC, you can get 15,825 GC seals every 72 minutes (harvest 25x NQ Trilium Bulbs, Vampire Plants, and Thavnarian Mistletoe and craft them into Madman's Whispering Rods, which you can trade in for 633 GC seals each) which gives you 4.4 Better Crowned Pies per hour, and you don't have to spend the whole hour working for it (about 3 minutes per node, 3 nodes for the harvesting, ~15 seconds per 5-step synth (2-step mat + 3-step item), 25 synths, = only ~1/5th of your time spent doing this). The 6x Water Crystals and 3x Lightning Crystals per synth may get expensive though if many people are doing this (the lightning crystals are already up to 400 gil each on my server). Even if you send a retainer out for the crystals, they can only get 30 per 40 mins, and you're burning through 225 per 72 mins.

Anyway, math!

Just for a small mention but you can also buy the leve items with GC and Allied seals, for a Better Crowned Pie it translates to 3600 GC (300 Allied) seals per pie.

Edit: Didn't fully read the post above. Which GC item would you go for to only get it at 2400 GC seals tho? Unless I remember wrong all the leve items are 600 seals and you need 6?

So those Splintered Chests you can get from dungeons (Sastasha I think?) that are used to make the Dead Man's Chest are desynthable. Little too rare and expensive on my server to just buy em to break em, but anyone know what they desynth into?

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Originally Posted by desufin

Just for a small mention but you can also buy the leve items with GC and Allied seals, for a Better Crowned Pie it translates to 3600 GC (300 Allied) seals per pie.

Edit: Didn't fully read the post above. Which GC item would you go for to only get it at 2400 GC seals tho? Unless I remember wrong all the leve items are 600 seals and you need 6?

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Shoot, you're right, sorry about that! For some reason, I keep mixing up the costs of the 4,000 seal Moonstones and 600 seal tokens in my head and thinking they're 6,000 seal Moonstones and 400 seal tokens. I'll edit the post above redoing the math, in case anyone actually cares about the math.

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Originally Posted by Espritduo

So those Splintered Chests you can get from dungeons (Sastasha I think?) that are used to make the Dead Man's Chest are desynthable. Little too rare and expensive on my server to just buy em to break em, but anyone know what they desynth into?

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Oh, that's interesting! It'll be a while before the price is low enough for it to be worth it, but I'm really curious what they'd give. Of course, it's unlikely they give anything amazing. The best items they could really give (as r90 wood/metal items) are Seagrot Seawater, Ebony/Cypress logs, Darksteel Ingots, Treated Spruce Lumber, Wolfram Ingots/Squares, Ancient Lumber, and 2x FC3s. It'll be a long time before any of those items are worth more than the chests themselves (unless you get like, multiple crafted philo mats).

For reference, the Splintered Chests are ARM desynth (not CRP - weird) and r90.

not sure if anyone saw it but aperetnly you can no longer desynth ilvl 100 pvp gear

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Originally Posted by MrHobbit

not sure if anyone saw it but aperetnly you can no longer desynth ilvl 100 pvp gear

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You couldn't at first, highest was the i90 stuff. Never heard of that being changed.

Also found out imitation mistbeard masks convert to FCIII, wolfram squares, darksteel ingots, and darksteel nuggets. So they're no longer 8k on my server, sorry.

And to correct the note from OP:

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Each point of Careful Desynthesis appears to be a flat bonus of +2.5% desynth success rate raise your effective skill level by 1, so +6 would be +15%. At 110 skill with Careful Desynthesis +6, you should have a 100% chance to desynth r90 items and an 85% chance to desynth r100 items.

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This is from using food on things high enough where the difference in skill was higher than 2.5% per point and seeing it matched up.

Edit: Also, in an odd use of mechanics, that storyline fight where your buff duration gets multiplied by 10, has been confirmed to work on x-pots...maybe it'll work on tinker's calm too?

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Originally Posted by MrHobbit

not sure if anyone saw it but aperetnly you can no longer desynth ilvl 100 pvp gear

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You never could.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

Also found out imitation mistbeard masks convert to FCIII, wolfram squares, darksteel ingots, and darksteel nuggets. So they're no longer 8k on my server, sorry.

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Good to know, thanks!

EDIT: What's the rlvl on that? Or, to ask that another way, what was your %chance and dSkill for it? It sounds like r90 if it was giving wolfram...

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

And to correct the note from OP:

This is from using food on things high enough where the difference in skill was higher than 2.5% per point and seeing it matched up.

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This does not seem correct. When I have a 70% chance (skill 100, desynthing an i90 item), NQ Bacon Broth increases my chances to 72.5%. At 101 skill without Bacon Broth, my chances are 71.5%. All other reports have also indicated a flat 2.5% bonus per point of Careful Desynthesis. Can you provide specific values for which Careful Desynthesis was more or less than +2.5% per point?

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

Edit: Also, in an odd use of mechanics, that storyline fight where your buff duration gets multiplied by 10, has been confirmed to work on x-pots...maybe it'll work on tinker's calm too?

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Which fight?

Chrysalis. But I'm told your buffs wear off after you exit the white world. I might try using one next time I'm in there just to see for sure though.

And about the skill level, nah I don't remember values, and if you're currently seeing otherwise I'll just retract that; I must be remembering it wrong.

r70 for the mistbeard mask and imperial shadow visor. I get 100% on imp visors on 100 gsm, and get 76% on both the mistbeard mask and artisan's frypan @ 84 armorer. I only did a few imperial visors, rose gold ingot and nugget, couldn't really imagine an equivalent to the wolfram square and they were more expensive.

Also got 3 terminus putty off a varlet's bracelet tonight (i100 dungeon drop).

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

Chrysalis. But I'm told your buffs wear off after you exit the white world. I might try using one next time I'm in there just to see for sure though.

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Well, you can desynth in duties, so if it works, you could theoretically get a group of desynthers together in PF, go in, desynth for an hour, and then leave. Of course, you'd need inventory space for enough items that you couldn't desynth them all in 10 minutes normally, which is kinda impossible. Maybe with stacks and stacks of fish...

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

r70 for the mistbeard mask and imperial shadow visor. I get 100% on imp visors on 100 gsm, and get 76% on both the mistbeard mask and artisan's frypan @ 84 armorer. I only did a few imperial visors, rose gold ingot and nugget, couldn't really imagine an equivalent to the wolfram square and they were more expensive.

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On my server, Rose Gold Ingots (r70 GSM material, requires 9x peacock ore and 2x rose gold nugget) have generally been much more expensive than Wolfram Squares (r90 ARM material, requires 1x Scheelite). Generally, Rose Gold Ingots are 75-100k, and Wolfram Squares are 20-30k (Scheelite was down to 5k last I checked, and Peacock Ore was 5k each). But, Darksteel Ingots (r70 ARM and BSM material, requires 9x coke and 2x darksteel nugget) are generally the same price as Rose Gold Nuggets.

The GSM equivalent of Wolfram Squares would be Gold Ingots (r90, require 1x raziqsand) or any of the highest level gems (Ruby, Topaz, Emerald, Iolite, Sapphire, Diamond - r90, require 1x emery).

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

Also got 3 terminus putty off a varlet's bracelet tonight (i100 dungeon drop).

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Good to know, thank you!

I had some time to do some science tonight just before maintenance, and found out that you cannot desynth while under the effects of brainjack. Which is a shame.

That Chrysalis fight, if it's true that buffs wear exiting this one phase, it wouldn't be good for desynth. You fight in one arena, get sucked into another which extends your buffs, and you have a short time to fight one mob, or wipe, before you go back out. A tank could desynth while in there cause they stand under meteors but it's not the kind of length of time you could spend 10+ minutes in. If there's an exploit it would have to rely on the extended buff lasting after the fight.

As far as imperial shadow visors, it's certainly possible they'd drop gold ingots (last I checked were like 8k for nq on my server). NQ rose gold ingots are like 15k. The visors were going about 20k. Guess we just have a bigger GSM desynth bandwagon. If they drop 4 things like the mistbeard masks do, it's easy enough to average whether it's worth spamming a bit for science, but that wouldn't be where I am.

I haven't seen any mention in this thread or elesewhere on the Net: Anyone know what coeurl eyeglasses desynth into?

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Originally Posted by GothTayuua

I had some time to do some science tonight just before maintenance, and found out that you cannot desynth while under the effects of brainjack. Which is a shame.

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I <3 you. Thanks for science!

From what I can tell, to generalize, desynthing is an action, specifically, a non-skill "destructive" action (in the CompSci meaning of the term). If you can't perform other actions such as skills, you can't desynth. While Confused, Brainjacked, Fettered, Slept, Stunned, or Mounted, you cannot preform actions (including skills), so you cannot desynth. If you've readied up for a duty or you are crafting or you are in a shop window, you cannot perform unrelated "destructive" actions, so you cannot desynth. "Destructive" actions are things that permanently modify the game state such that they interfere with the action you are currently preforming. You can't switch classes while accessing a retainer's inventory as that changes your gamestate in ways that have nothing to do with accessing your retainer's inventory, but you can sort items, discard them, and move them around. You cannot move items around or discard them while crafting, because that affects your gamestate in a way that directly impacts the craft - what if you discard an item that you're currently using in a synth? You can't shop or access your retainers while crafting for the same reason.

The big difference between crafting/gathering/shopping/retainering and desynthing is that desynthing does not require you to stand still, nor be in a specific place, nor interact with a specific non-inventory object. So, you can do it on the go, where you can't do the others on the go. There is also no class requirement for desynthing, so you can do it in duties. You can't craft in duties, not because it's disabled during duties, but because you cannot be a DoH class in a duty.

.... and now I'm wondering about crafting during Frontlines... I never checked if the DoH classes were available or not (my guess is that they aren't, or else I'd have seen trolls running out brandishing their sewing needles already).

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Originally Posted by Amnesia

I haven't seen any mention in this thread or elesewhere on the Net: Anyone know what coeurl eyeglasses desynth into?

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They are 2 star, so they should desynth into fieldcraft 3's or their mats: clear glass lens or darksteel ingot. That ingot kind of prohibits it being worth spamming; I can't imagine a server having those as a lesser cost than garlean joints.

Also, Nyalia, in your OP the sources for BC 2's is a bit outdated/incomplete/whatever...from what I could figure this should be the list:

CRP: wolf guisarme (pvp)
BSM: wolf winglet or pugiones (pvp) (you had pld weapon only there, the newer ninja one is only 2 mats vs 5 but it is 2 ds nuggets so maybe that's a tossup)
ARM: cobalt chain coif
GSM: lvl 50 earrings (rubelllite, zircon, etc) (you had some i55 there)
LTW: 1-star militia choker or wolf duckbills
WVR: wolf tights
ALC: tane mahuta (you had the madman's whispering rod
CUL: (incapable)

Yeah, that list hasn't really been updated since the patch that introduced desynth. Madman's were such great sources for BC2s for so long, cheaper than Tanes with better yields, but now they're super expensive since GC Seals became required in large quantities out of the blue. All the i55 stuff is now turn-inable for GC seals, and is no longer cheap to make, nor anything that uses the same materials.

I really need to rework the guide from scratch with the new material costs, but that's a lot of work so I don't know when I'll be able to get to it. Stuff like Twinthread and Hippogryph Leather going from 1k to 4k totally changes everything, especially along with all the smaller changes (filtered water going from 1 gil to 1k gil, rose gold and darksteel nuggets going from 4k to 5-6k, etc).

And, I have no idea if prices will re-stabilize back down to the old levels once the zodiac/lucis-rush dies down... And, I have no idea if the economies of other servers are mirroring ours or not.

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

filtered water going from 1 gil to 1k gil

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...wut?

Filtered Water has been consistently that low on your server? X_X On Balmung 500g is the bare minimum and that's extremely rare. More often than not, prices neighbour into the thousands EACH.

Dem Terminus Putty ; ;

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Originally Posted by Archadius

...wut?

Filtered Water has been consistently that low on your server? X_X On Balmung 500g is the bare minimum and that's extremely rare. More often than not, prices neighbour into the thousands EACH.

Dem Terminus Putty ; ;

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It HAD been that low. Not sure when it changed. Filtered Water was ~1 gil way back when I got into endgame crafting and made my crafting spreadsheet, which was back in late 2.2 or early 2.3. I'm not sure when it spiked, as I bought 198 back then and slowly went through them over the course of a few patches. I went to get more recently and I was like, what the heck, when did this get so expensive?

I don't understand, on Excalibur I always see FCIII's up for 35k each. My average from desynthing shoes, comes to like 75k per practically. Is there a newer/cheaper method I'm not aware of to get them?

Edit: I just bought some for 34k each. This is crazy.

15% means that you'll get 1 to 2 from each set of 10 shoes you buy. At 6k per shoe, that's 1 to 2 for each 60k spent.

I figure, 3 from a set of 20 shoes. That's 40k each from desynthing them myself. If they're being sold at less than that, I'll buy. If the price is higher, I'll desynth.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

15% means that you'll get 1 to 2 from each set of 10 shoes you buy. At 6k per shoe, that's 1 to 2 for each 60k spent.

I figure, 3 from a set of 20 shoes. That's 40k each from desynthing them myself. If they're being sold at less than that, I'll buy. If the price is higher, I'll desynth.

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I must have the worst luck! I like your 40k scheme.

HQ lumber also sells for 3k ea and NQ for 1k ea, Hard Hippo Leather is ~15k

even if you only get 3 out of 20 FC III you'll make another 30-50k with sidestuff

"Aged Spear (r55) -> 1-2x FC2, 1x Aged Spear Shaft (EY: 0.2) (needed for Zodiac Weapon, buy for 3k from Silver Bazaar vendor)
Perfect Firewood (r90) -> 1-2x FC3"

i have been spamming this daily since release of the zodiac weapon quest. and i have never gotten FC2!! either i get Aged Spear Shaft (the rate for this 1 out of 10 desynths). or junk lumbers/ingots. or clear demi 2. (1 only).

also i never got FC3 from desynthing the NQ Perfect Firewood!!! (only when i fail HQ crafting them. not very often)

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Originally Posted by Empty-handed

"Aged Spear (r55) -> 1-2x FC2, 1x Aged Spear Shaft (EY: 0.2) (needed for Zodiac Weapon, buy for 3k from Silver Bazaar vendor)
Perfect Firewood (r90) -> 1-2x FC3"

i have been spamming this daily since release of the zodiac weapon quest. and i have never gotten FC2!! either i get Aged Spear Shaft (the rate for this 1 out of 10 desynths). or junk lumbers/ingots. or clear demi 2. (1 only).

also i never got FC3 from desynthing the NQ Perfect Firewood!!! (only when i fail HQ crafting them. not very often)

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My data on this could easily be bad. I never made these items for desynth myself, but other people reported FC2 and FC3s from those. Here's someone saying they obtained FC3s from the i90 crafted items:

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Originally Posted by Espritduo

Fun fact: The 3-star items you need to make with the new desynthed items are desynthable as well, and can yield 2 FCIII's. So if you nq one (like I did...), don't forget to desynth them and maybe get something for your troubles.

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I don't have a source for the FC2s from the i55 vendor items. I don't recall where I heard that. I'll mark them as unconfirmed next time I update the guide unless someone can confirm them for me.

"dSkill 60-80: Aged Ring (r55) [60% - 92.5%] (FC2) (buy for 3k from Silver Bazaar vendor)"

Out of 99 (including failed attempts) yielded junk ingots/gems, aged eye of fire, and clear demi. No FC2

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Originally Posted by TorYvresse

"dSkill 60-80: Aged Ring (r55) [60% - 92.5%] (FC2) (buy for 3k from Silver Bazaar vendor)"

Out of 99 (including failed attempts) yielded junk ingots/gems, aged eye of fire, and clear demi. No FC2

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I desynthed 300-400 of these getting GSM from 100 to 108 and also received no FC2, plenty of Aged Eye of Fire and HQ though.