"LFM Titan HM full DL" -.-

Not only Gear is the issue of OP, imho, but also lack of cross-class abilities. I wonder how can someone go and do endgame without said abilities. How can a WHM do his proper job without surecast or swiftcast in endgame? Tell me please.

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Originally Posted by vRoad

3.2k HP is enough to run Titan. Just need to dodge everything.
Also 9 tumults...how slow is your DPS?

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if its DF you got 2 tanks so you're missing dps and also people want to build LB, causing the time drag on which causes to titan to do more tumults. So unless you got a premade group with only 1 tank .. yeah it will probably be low.. ppl just not realising the LB building will kill them on the last phase, but as only few DF groups actually manage to get to that phase they just dont know that :P

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Originally Posted by Helza

if its DF you got 2 tanks so you're missing dps and also people want to build LB, causing the time drag on which causes to titan to do more tumults. So unless you got a premade group with only 1 tank .. yeah it will probably be low.. ppl just not realising the LB building will kill them on the last phase, but as only few DF groups actually manage to get to that phase they just dont know that :P

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Ya only ever had 2 good groups on DF, where we got him down to about 20-24% health. But I see most people in DF get stuck on the last phase, with so much things happening around them, they just loose focus and then it becomes a wipe.

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Originally Posted by Guevara

Not only Gear is the issue of OP, imho, but also lack of cross-class abilities. I wonder how can someone go and do endgame without said abilities. How can a WHM do his proper job without surecast or swiftcast in endgame? Tell me please.

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The fact that they don't understand Shroud of Saints, and the need for it makes me a sad.

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Originally Posted by YanDere

Really, I've had enough of those noobs.
People saying that I need full DL or lv70 gear to beat primals HM are just noobs that don't know how to play and flame about 3 or 4 stats points.
People said to me that I needed full DL to beat Titan when I had beaten Garuda HM while having a single DL piece, a CNJ wand lv49, the Healer's Robe lv50 and all the rest below lv45, earrings and choker lv28.
With this gear I KO'd Garuda HM without Mage's Ballad, without going under 90% MP while raising 5 times THE OTHER WHM.
It happened because the party was good.
I admit that Titan is more difficult, but it still doesn't need full DL gear.
But still I haven't got my chunk of hyperfused ore because nobody is capable of beating him, the other whm/sch dies dds don't deal enough damage, the tank doesn't aggro well...
I wish I could find someone good in that crazy Navel.

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Seems legit while raise literally burns a good chunk of your mp. :rolleyes:

dont get me wrong, i've done garuda without any piece of DL (full af + ifrit's cane to be clear), but not going under 90% of the mana pool with that gear plus raising 5 times.. err sure

These threads over and over and over again.

It's very simple. Create your own group and then you can pick and choose who you want to join. You trade the convenience of joining an existing group and dealing with this nonsense with creating your own group, working a little harder to put the group together, but ultimately get the outcome you desire.

With all the people that complain about the same elitist garbage, there should be plenty of people in your situation that are willing to get together and attempt the encounter.

Yes there are a**holes in this game. Yes, the community is sh*tty. But there are things you can do to circumvent those things. Blacklist people you don't ever want to associate and create your own groups. Problem solved.

I'm sure people love having you and your level 28 belt in the fight

I had abandoned this topic, but it seems people is still flaming...

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Originally Posted by Mireillechan

Seems legit while raise literally burns a good chunk of your mp.
dont get me wrong, i've done garuda without any piece of DL (full af + ifrit's cane to be clear), but not going under 90% of the mana pool with that gear plus raising 5 times.. err sure

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I already answered this, but I assume your "view precedent pages" option is broken...
Well, I said that "never getting under 90%" means "never getting under 90% for more than 4-5 seconds", every time I had to heal I had more than 90% MP, and I healed everything well. That's because the group was good, they avoided AoEs, they didn't pull or overheal, the tank aggroed well and lured Garuda, Suparna and Chirada far from the healers.

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Originally Posted by SamaelMid

I'm sure people love having you and your level 28 belt in the fight

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As long as I avoid AoEs and heal properly, yes, they should love (and btw I have a DL belt).

OP is just not getting what people try to explain to him. Yes...you might be so awesome that you can do Titan with your subpar Gear. Not WANTING to get better gear, or appropriate cross class skills, cause you don't feel like you need them is "reasonable" to an extent as well, though I personally think it's selfish, but that's another topic.

But what you just don't get is...with your 3K HP...your subpar Gear you will be down in a matter of 3 seconds once Titan is at <20%. Even really good and fast groups get at least 5 Tumults towards the end. PUG groups tend to get more towards 6-7 Tumults, cause they just take longer. You will be among the first that drops come that phase. Cause of your subpar gear, which also affects healing on all others cause you heal for less than better geared WHMs.

You may be an awesome player...but with your attitude and your "approach" on Titan HM, you're a liability to the rest of the group.

PS: Getting Relic+1 as a Healer is the biggest waste of 900 Mythology ever...Healers are the last that should even think about Relic+1...which proofs another point...you just care about the shiny glow, not about efficiency...not to say if you go on as you do right now...you won't get your relic before you capped out Mythology anyway...and by then you prolly still won't have Full DL...

I made the calculation for healing potency, and only DL cowl of casting + Relic+1 is far better than Cleric's Robe and Circlet. So I'm not playing for shiny stuff.
I'm playing for the good fights. I'll have full DL only when it's REALLY required, in the BCoC 3-4-5.
Som people completed the first two turns of BCoC with AK gear with no big problems.
I'll get my damn DL cowl and beat Titan.
And let me explain something: do you know why I don't want to get DL gear until it's required? Because I'm on PS3, and farming tomes on PS3 is hard as shit. People have someone to blame when they do something wrong, nobody waits for you when you skip a cutscene because they can't lose 5 seconds...
I did AK, Prae and CM more than 50 times each, I have only 895 ToP and 260 ToM (I bought a DL sash and a DL earring, nothing more), because when people hear "PS3" they just leave because they want "good players".
So I plan on getting my Relic + 1 and doing other classes before BCoC.