FFXIV poor performance outlier on new Radeon 9070 XT cards!?

im on a 9070 non-XT and running at about 80-90 peak hours in Limsa, 150-160 in raids at 1440p

other specs im running are:
i5-13400f
32gb ram
high transparency, GTAO on standard
nothing else on for AMD settings

i feel like the performance improved a tiny bit from 7.1 but i don't really have anything to back it up, a lot of the framerate issues seem pretty spontaneous. gonna try forcing FSR4 later to see if anything improves

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Originally Posted by Ashika

Unfortunately not much people atm in Limsa but Maximum graphics settings with no upscaling gives me around 80-95 FPS in Limsa at 4K. I can imagine it would go a bit lower with more people.

CPU: 9800X3D
GPU: Sapphire Pulse 9070 XT

I lower some of my settings usually and can get 130+ FPS.

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hooow at double the resolution a 5900X with 64GB of RAM and an XFX Swift 9070 XT shouldn't be THAT much of a difference.... esp since you are double the resolution!?

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Originally Posted by snafu

im on a 9070 non-XT and running at about 80-90 peak hours in Limsa, 150-160 in raids at 1440p

other specs im running are:
i5-13400f
32gb ram
high transparency, GTAO on standard
nothing else on for AMD settings

i feel like the performance improved a tiny bit from 7.1 but i don't really have anything to back it up, a lot of the framerate issues seem pretty spontaneous. gonna try forcing FSR4 later to see if anything improves

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Curious in System Config > Other what are both of your settings for Display Limits / Character and Object Quantity?

Any update on this? i was thinking of switching to AMD after 2 borked NVIDIA launches and all the lies about the performance but if FFXIV runs so bad on them i might need to stick to NVIDIA.

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Originally Posted by Araxes

Any update on this? i was thinking of switching to AMD after 2 borked NVIDIA launches and all the lies about the performance but if FFXIV runs so bad on them i might need to stick to NVIDIA.

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I would suggest that unless you need to change your GPU now, wait until next gen and if AMD really has learned lessons from this year buy their product then. Personally I wouldn't willingly buy NVIDIA in general on account of their attitude, their pricing, etc, but AMD is still playing catchup in ray tracing which for some is a factor.

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Originally Posted by Araxes

Any update on this? i was thinking of switching to AMD after 2 borked NVIDIA launches and all the lies about the performance but if FFXIV runs so bad on them i might need to stick to NVIDIA.

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If FFXIV is your main game or one you play a lot, like I do, you're stuck with Nvidia for now.

yeah the performance of the 9070 is all over the place but if no one gets one and makes tickets complaining it'll never get fixed

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Originally Posted by Cubester

If FFXIV is your main game or one you play a lot, like I do, you're stuck with Nvidia for now.

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Well.. that sucks. I hope this gets sorted before i buy my new system.

Thats bs... the main consideration is price and what do you wanna spent, even if FFXIV is your main game, your totally fine with an AMD card. Using my 6800XT with 1440p everything on max for months now and i have easy my 144fps. PLease dont tell ppl such things if you clearly have no clue what all the metrics really mean and how they really perform ingame. The 9070XT is for its price a valid option even for 4k, but yeah if you have infinite money just buy NVIDIA.

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Originally Posted by Leika

Thats bs... the main consideration is price and what do you wanna spent, even if FFXIV is your main game, your totally fine with an AMD card. Using my 6800XT with 1440p everything on max for months now and i have easy my 144fps. PLease dont tell ppl such things if you clearly have no clue what all the metrics really mean and how they really perform ingame. The 9070XT is for its price a valid option even for 4k, but yeah if you have infinite money just buy NVIDIA.

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If price is truly a concern, just get a used 3080, Alza even sells new ones. They are like half the price of 9070/9070XT and around the same performance. Even the 5070 is better deal if this is your main game.

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Originally Posted by Leika

Thats bs... the main consideration is price and what do you wanna spent, even if FFXIV is your main game, your totally fine with an AMD card. Using my 6800XT with 1440p everything on max for months now and i have easy my 144fps. PLease dont tell ppl such things if you clearly have no clue what all the metrics really mean and how they really perform ingame. The 9070XT is for its price a valid option even for 4k, but yeah if you have infinite money just buy NVIDIA.

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The problem is that the 9070 /XT under perform compared to how they SHOULD preform not even comparable to the 5070Ti which it should be on par with at least for rasterization and I am lucky to see 70FPS in Limsa more often than not I am seeing 45-60 FPS in limsa when my 3070Ti could do limsa 75+ FPS and a full player house with 200 people still at 75FPSbut the 9060 XT tanks and lags and even cut-scenes are choppy really ruining the immersion