8.0 rework will be a joke

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Originally Posted by Lilapop

It's also, people unhappy are more likely to be vocal than people who are happy. For every jaded unhappy person here in the echo chamber, there's probably a dozen happy people who play the game without interacting with the forums or reddit. Half the people on the forums/reddit can't even agree upon what they want, the other half can't read, the rest are "skill issue git good"

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I agree cause the amount of dt too hard vs no its not is amazing. Your lvl 100 and crying dt too hard.... were in serious trouble.

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Originally Posted by Zakuyia

I agree cause the amount of dt too hard vs no its not is amazing. Your lvl 100 and crying dt too hard.... were in serious trouble.

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DT is harder in it's casual content and easier in it's hard content

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Originally Posted by Oizen

-DRK can either do the shadowstride gapcloser, or do it with no target and teleport forward similar to en avant or hell's ingress

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One idea I had thought of ages ago for DRK was to have Plunge be a ground-targeted AoE; keep the animation, but rather than attacking a target, it goes to wherever the player clicks and the animation plays mostly the same, but the vfx at the end changes to like a small dark explosion. Not exactly a necessary change, but considering how samey the gapclosers were in EW (and how dreadful Shadowstride looks and feels), it would give Plunge a bit more uniqueness and possible extra mobility that the other tanks wouldn't have.

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Originally Posted by Lilapop

People complain about everything though? One person's complaint can contradict another person's complaint entirely? Things along the lines of "this is bad" doesn't really say anything either. Why is it bad? How can it be better? This community can't even agree what the terms "casual" and "hardcore" mean, the "complaints" are hardly much better.

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That's where it's the developer's job to sift through the negative feedback to figure out which of it is valid, make an effort to find out concrete information on why people think it's bad.
It sure sounds annoying but that's the unfortunate reality.

The people complaining actually still care, when they simply quit you know you have messed up.

Because those people have been through the process of getting annoyed, complaining, slowly getting angry and ultimately becoming apathetic.
And during this entire process they most likely have been searching for a replacement game, so when they finally quit it is very unlikely for them to come back, they don't care anymore what you do.

The proof is in the pudding, the only proof they have given us so far is that they are REALLY SLOW with their promised features and QoL. They are very rigid, lacking resources or just straight up incompetent on a lot of things when it comes to innovation. I have 0 reason to believe that 8.0 will somehow be somekind of saving grace, I've finally begun to understand what kind of a minefield the japanese language is to navigate and how you can't really take ANY sentence at face value. Combine that with P.R talk and you get a fine mess of lack of honest communication from the devs.

And worst case scenario, they actually release a banger and prove me wrong? But until then, I think it's my duty as a customer to keep complaining until I feel like my wallet is given its worth for a MONTHLY PAYMENT.

8.0 is my "vote with my wallet" moment though. If the story is equally childishly written and the gameplay is stagnant, I'm gone.

I feel like healers and tanks will get mostly ignored honestly, I feel as if the balance team doesn't really even know what to do with non dps roles in a game where DPS is number 1. Which I think is funny because Healers and tanks are most in need of new updated designs.

Most likely what you'll see is some reversion on 2 minute meta, as this has become one of the key complaints which is valid but I also don't think 2 minute meta is the only issue, some job reworks that aren't really getting some play right now, maybe one or two attempts at a "unique" skill on a job.

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

I think they can manage balance (not perfect balance oc but it will only affect HC raiders) + reward + fun

they did it in HW

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You must be a ShB baby

HW was absolutely not balanced. The meta was triple piercing + NIN.

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

the problem was Gordias (gear check) not the balance, it's like if M4s or P8s had a "i730" "i630" min ilvl requirement

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And saying Gordias was a gear check... LOL

CN cleared Gordias in week 1. Most top raiders from that time agree it wasn't a gear check in retrospect. People were just bad. Check the A3S vod, they were playing very suboptimally.

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Originally Posted by Kazuke_Miso

You must be a ShB baby

HW was absolutely not balanced. The meta was triple piercing + NIN.

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No I've raided gordias / midas and creator

And I consider that HW was balanced, maybe not for week 1 - week 2 raiders but who cares, if your HC you're supposed to play meta (gear check aside), and overall casuals didnt give a fuck about the balance from what I remember

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Originally Posted by Kazuke_Miso

And saying Gordias was a gear check... LOL

CN cleared Gordias in week 1. Most top raiders from that time agree it wasn't a gear check in retrospect. People were just bad. Check the A3S vod, they were playing very suboptimally.

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kekw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iewfOmHjwYU
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...d28688cb23af11

week5=week1, okay dude