Why are NPC parties so bad?

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

Que as a tank or healer

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Maybe if they made those roles desirable to play people would

Who wants to spam 1 button while the tank does their job for them or queues into casual content to proceed to play solo and have a gimped melee rotation

There is nothing desirable about the supports in modern 14

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Maybe if they made those roles desirable to play people would

Who wants to spam 1 button while the tank does their job for them or queues into casual content to proceed to play solo and have a gimped melee rotation

There is nothing desirable about the supports in modern 14

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Not only is gunbreaker desirable to play. It's rotation can be very stressful in high end content and with much fewer mitigation than pld war and drk it requires more careful planning, creating a return for investment. I also really enjoy pld in 8 man content because if its ability to carry a bad tank/healer. and war is the perfect dng tank. If you want a more engaging healer try scholar. Having to choose between healing and dpsing allways keeps things alive and healing in dngs as scholar requires brain power to accomplish

I'm afraid this is simply a matter of perspective vs matter of fact. Trying to say sprouts won't play tank is a flwed stance. Tank is the literal best job for a sprout because mecanics do not effect the the same and they have more panic buttons

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

Not only is gunbreaker desirable to play. It's rotation can be very stressful in high end content and with much fewer mitigation than pld war and drk it requires more careful planning, creating a return for investment. I also really enjoy pld in 8 man content because if its ability to carry a bad tank/healer. and war is the perfect dng tank. If you want a more engaging healer try scholar. Having to choose between healing and dpsing allways keeps things alive and healing in dngs as scholar requires brain power to accomplish

I'm afraid this is simply a matter of perspective vs matter of fact. Trying to say sprouts won't play tank is a flwed stance. Tank is the literal best job for a sprout because mecanics do not effect the the same and they have more panic buttons

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It speaks wonders to your point that you immediately have to jump to high end content to justify the excitement of these jobs

SCH is quite possibly the single most boring job in casual content

I'm not sure why that's all you saw but allow me to repeat myself

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If you want a more engaging healer try scholar. Having to choose between healing and dpsing allways keeps things alive and healing in dngs as scholar requires brain power to accomplish

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. I also really enjoy pld in 8 man content because if its ability to carry a bad tank/healer. and war is the perfect dng tank.

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Where was it stated only that I meant high end content? The first 8 man instance is a level 40 guildhest

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SCH is quite possibly the single most boring job in casual content

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This is once again not a matter of fact but opinion and one I would question at that. Implying you find sch more boring than White mage makes me think the very reason you don't like it is because it's harder

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

I'm not sure if you actually read my post if that's all you saw but allow me to repeat myself




Where was it stated only that I meant high end content? The first 8 man instance is a level 40 guildhest
This is once again not a matter of fact but opinion

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Because if you think you are choosing between healing and damage with SCH in casual content that’s more a misunderstanding on modern SXH gameplay, you also mentioned GNB specifically in high end content for its rotation

This thread is functionally about dungeons and I physically ally cannot think of a job that has less engagement than a job that has a single button in AOE

Sorry I didn’t mean to come off as inflammatory, my bad

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Because if you think you are choosing between healing and damage with SCH in casual content that’s more a misunderstanding on modern SXH gameplay, you also mentioned GNB specifically in high end content for its rotation

This thread is functionally about dungeons and I physically ally cannot think of a job that has less engagement than a job that has a single button in AOE

Sorry I didn’t mean to come off as inflammatory, my bad

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I don't understand why you wouldn't be choosing? You have 3 - 6 stacks of aetherflow a minute and once they're used they're gone till cooldowns off. If you waste them then you will have consequences so I'm not sure what you're implying. This also applies to dungeons too so again not sure why that's there

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

I don't understand why you wouldn't be choosing? You have 3 - stacks of aetherflow a minute and once they're used they're gone till cooldowns off. If you waste them then you will have consequences so I'm not sure what you're implying

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Because in casual content damage is so low you can almost entirely rely on your free healing

Between your two free mitigations of expedient and illumination, seraph, blessing, recite indom, union, whispering dawn and embrace you functionally never need to actually use your aetherflow heals.

There would be choice if you still needed to heal beyond that but between the cohealer and the tank you pretty much never actually need to press them, it’s like the “choice” of pressing a GCD heal, you just never need to do it

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Because in casual content damage is so low you can almost entirely rely on your free healing

Between your two free mitigations of expedient and illumination, seraph, blessing, recite indom, union, whispering dawn and embrace you functionally never need to actually use your aetherflow heals.

There would be choice if you still needed to heal beyond that but between the cohealer and the tank you pretty much never actually need to press them, it’s like the “choice” of pressing a GCD heal, you just never need to do it

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The skills you mentioned are all 80+ level skills (jftr)

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Because in casual content damage is so low you can almost entirely rely on your free healing

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Not on w2w it's not

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whispering dawn and embrace

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in level 69 or lower content this is all you really have to have to heal with so.. yea thats simply not enough

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recite indom

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This is not a free heal?

Also the point of my comment wasn't about playing optimally. It was about sch having a choice. A sprout learning sch is more likley going to expend his aetherflow on heals not dps

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

The skills you mentioned are all 80+ level skills (jftr)


Not on w2w it's not
in level 69 or lower content this is all you really have to have to heal with so.. yea thats simply not enough


This is not a free heal?

Also the point of my comment wasn't about playing optimally. It was about sch having a choice. A sprout learning sch is more likley going to expend his aetherflow on heals not dps

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Recite Indom is 100% a free skill, recitation skips the aetherflow costs of aetherflow skills it can crit so it’s basically a free pnuema every 90 seconds

Below like 70 I agree but there is always a choice below 70 because everyone has a choice because GCD heals are necessary on everyone, in current content SCH rarely needs to actually choose you just have too many free heals in content that the current healing is based on

As for W2W the tank is doing your healing for you

I've found I can speed Duty Support runs up a bit by pulling nearby trash packs, adding them to the one we're currently fighting. The multiple packs take about the same time to kill as the singles. (I never do this with live players :)

I just tried a squadron command run, and those NPC's just don't get out of the bad stuff. Duty Support NPC's make all the right moves, and serve as a teaching aid in unfamiliar dungeons because you just have to folow them to the safe spots