Paladins Invuln Capping in Onsal Hakkar

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Originally Posted by Xeronia

Yeah my friend Zavos was who made that initial post/bug report and told me it had been moved to "working as intended", we just swore off doing Frontline on Onsal Hakair days now and I would suggest that to anyone not achievement hunting unless you want to join the Paladin fiesta.

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I feel like the only way we can ever ensure abuse of specific combat in pvp is removed or at least changed is by doing it on a livestream with yoship and the devs. Once they see and experience it with sour tastes in their mouth-- they're bound to change it effective immediately lol. Either that or the PVP heads who show up in all those announcements somehow showcase the abuse of being able to win matches with those means

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Originally Posted by Elkanah

I feel like the only way we can ever ensure abuse of specific combat in pvp is removed or at least changed is by doing it on a livestream with yoship and the devs. Once they see and experience it with sour tastes in their mouth-- they're bound to change it effective immediately lol. Either that or the PVP heads who show up in all those announcements somehow showcase the abuse of being able to win matches with those means

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Thats IF they que up and the teams that they join up with abuse it tTHE ENTIRE TIME. Just to prove a point.

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Originally Posted by Flash_Reaper

Sadly this went from a “accepted bug” to “working as intended” it probably won’t change unless enough people say something everywhere

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Yup, here's the thread, moved to "working as intended":
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-making-claims

SE literally just said "yeah this is supposed to be how it works, so everyone should get on to leveling a paladin"

If I was not trying for the mount I would not touch the mode. It use to be one of my favorites.

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Originally Posted by Gserpent

I don\\'t really see it as a huge issue. More than half of your points will (or should) be coming from kills. It\\'s unlikely that a single node, capped by a single paladin, will determine the outcome of a game. It\\'s dumb and annoying and will hopefully get fixed, but it\\'s not like it\\'s gamebreaking.

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But what about 7 nodes including all S ranks and most A’s being capped by the same Paladin duo just covering the capper? That definitely seems like a game breaker type situation to me. I don’t believe that qualifies as “working as intended” and a simple fix of “interacting with objects or mounting will cause cover to be broken” is a huge, world shaking change

It is absolutely gamebreaking. It won't win a match 100% on its own, but is can sure as heck get you more than 50% of the way there even if your team is awful.

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it doesn't guarantee you a win, therefore it's not gamebreaking

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That's a terrible argument. Following the same logic all the 3rd party tools that add auto callouts and visible aoe markers ect to Ultimate should be fine too, since they don't guarantee you a clear

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Originally Posted by swiss_Momo

That's a terrible argument. Following the same logic all the 3rd party tools that add auto callouts and visible aoe markers ect to Ultimate should be fine too, since they don't guarantee you a clear

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This statement of yours is true.

I wish to remind some people that having an obvious advantage doesn't guarantee the win, espcially on FFXIV where almost anything is a team effort. If you have the advantage of having "auto-callouts" but other don't, fine for you, but that's still a gigantic advantage over other average player.

Same goes for this "Cover". It doesn't guarantee the PvP Win, BUT it will guarantee a ton of free point where your enemy can't even fight to unable you to cap it.

Anything that give you an "abnormal" advantage over other player isn't something normal and should be adressed immediatly.

https://i.imgur.com/UkXH6YQ.gif

It would be so easy to fix this - make it 99% rather than 100, & we can interrupt. But God, how I hate this map! I do it (pvp) once a day, to level my alt, & I hate it. I deeply hate it. The last one I was in had FIVE stinking paladins, and if any of us were able to stop one, another took over. It genuinely makes me angry at whoever is letting this go on - it's not a 'clever mechanic.' It's a very bad design.