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Originally Posted by Mirhd

Lahabrea's son. Erichthonios is Lahabrea's son, and we're also hanging out with Elidibus himself, though he's using his real name (Themis) to avoid being recognized as a member of the Convocation. Elidibus is still a kid among the ancients. :P

EDIT: Although, this could be Elidibus just before he officially joins the Convocation. he says "I am here as representative of an organization that works directly with the Convocation", though again, that could just be him trying to maintain some secrecy.

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Nice insights - been excited for more of the Pandemonium story to release. Was really glad we got to return to Elpis.

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Originally Posted by Mirhd

Lahabrea's son. Erichthonios is Lahabrea's son, and we're also hanging out with Elidibus himself, though he's using his real name (Themis) to avoid being recognized as a member of the Convocation. Elidibus is still a kid among the ancients. :P

EDIT: Although, this could be Elidibus just before he officially joins the Convocation. he says "I am here as representative of an organization that works directly with the Convocation", though again, that could just be him trying to maintain some secrecy.

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It was kind of sus cause he says Azem is a member of the same organization. It could be before they both joined. We don't have enough to tell us just yet.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

It was kind of sus cause he says Azem is a member of the same organization. It could be before they both joined. We don't have enough to tell us just yet.

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Originally Posted by Mirhd

this could be Elidibus just before he officially joins the Convocation. he says "I am here as representative of an organization that works directly with the Convocation", though again, that could just be him trying to maintain some secrecy.

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Their own "Scions of the Seventh Dawn" type of organization maybe?

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Originally Posted by Mirhd

Unless you're a Roe

Yeah. When not using another body Elidibus has always been portrayed as shorter (when you consider modern people) and just younger overall compared to his fellows. His small figure after we defeat him at the Seat of Sacrifice, and in Emet's second short story where he refers to Elidibus as a "youth of small stature" come to mind. I remember wondering in the post SoS cutscene if his size there was just a reflection of his innocent and childlike wish to save his people, or if he was actually a child when everything went down. Turns out it was the later. : /

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I dunno. A "child" wouldn't have that manly, soothing, calming voice that he has.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

It was kind of sus cause he says Azem is a member of the same organization. It could be before they both joined. We don't have enough to tell us just yet.

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Not sure, but there are some certainties at least. I doubt it's before Azem (we) joined, though, and he doesn't mention Azem being from another organization, just himself. Given this takes place in the Elpis we were originally sent to and Elidibus says this after telling him we're Azem's familiar:

https://i.imgur.com/zTqhDRP.jpg

It would have to be us he's referring to - it couldn't be anyone else as we're Venat's successor and she had long since stepped down from her position at that point, so it couldn't be her. I still think the most likely explanation is Elidibus is "undercover" so to speak, since he probably doesn't want the knowledge that he's from the Convocation to influence anyones' words/actions, though him not having joined up yet is certainly a possibility.

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Originally Posted by Haruka_R

Their own "Scions of the Seventh Dawn" type of organization maybe?

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Perhaps, though their society seems to revolve largely around a "let things happen as they may" approach (at least, pre-Final Days, per the short story "Ere Our Curtain Falls"), since, while respected by many, they still think we (Azem) are a weirdo for sticking our noses into things wherever we went/go (trying to stop an erupting volcano for tasty grapes), even though that's exactly the reason the position exists to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Haruka_R

I dunno. A "child" wouldn't have that manly, soothing, calming voice that he has.

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Nah, you have to remember even a child ancient is still centuries older than anyone in the modern day and we really can't assume they develop in the same way. Also, again, from the short story "Ere Our Curtain Falls":

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"Emet-Selch!"

My name rang out in the Capitol, the caller's voice resounding around the foyer.

I could hardly pretend not to have heard (alas), and thus turned to face my pursuer. I had been so close to escaping...

The voice belonged, as I knew it would, to a white-robed youth of small stature, who was hastening across the hall. His red mask marked him out as one of the Convocation of Fourteen. Elidibus.

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“It truly is incredible,” the youth said with quiet fervency

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That's the sort of person Elidibus was; eager to fulfill his duty, he also respected and admired the Convocation more than any other. To many of us, he was as a younger brother of sorts.

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"Youth" is really only used for someone who is very young (again, by ancient standards). He is indeed a child, and the youngest of the Convocation.

... Aaand I should probably stop derailing with comments about Elidibus in a Zenos fan thread. Apologies everyone, I tend to ramble.

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Originally Posted by Faust1105

Nice insights - been excited for more of the Pandemonium story to release. Was really glad we got to return to Elpis.

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Yeah, I'm pretty impatient myself - next patch can't come soon enough. I must know what happens to Eric. :X

Youth isn't just used for someone very young. Youth can be used for teenager or early 20s. If that is him as Themis, then youth would definitely apply.

I read enough Regency romances to have seen it used for the naive eager young pup in his early 20s many a time.

I am aware of what youth is. Alright? I just think that his voice doesn't match his face. That's all.

Bah, wasn't gonna post again, but here. Last one.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

Youth isn't just used for someone very young. Youth can be used for teenager or early 20s. If that is him as Themis, then youth would definitely apply.

I read enough Regency romances to have seen it used for the naive eager young pup in his early 20s many a time.

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I've read period works as well, and it isn't nearly so frequent to refer to someone in their 20s as a "youth" physically, but mentally, which follows with your example. They're referring to the behavior. Regardless, doesn't change the fact that the word, by and large throughout time, is used to refer to someone pre-adulthood, or that the cutoff for childhood and adolescence was lower in the past than it is now.

I'm not saying Elidibus is like, 10 years old in ancient terms, but it's really undeniable that he wasn't an adult when everything went wrong.

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Originally Posted by Haruka_R

I am aware of what youth is. Alright? I just think that his voice doesn't match his face. That's all.

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Yuyuhase's original JP VA (among others, even non-JP) would like a word with you.

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Originally Posted by Mirhd

Yeah, I'm pretty impatient myself - next patch can't come soon enough. I must know what happens to Eric. :X

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Has there been any word on when the next patch will come? This is my first time at max level during current content, so not sure what the schedule is like

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Originally Posted by Mirhd

I'm not saying Elidibus is like, 10 years old in ancient terms, but it's really undeniable that he wasn't an adult when everything went wrong.

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I looked youth age range up because I wanted to see what it said. Most sources I've found say it's 15-24. That's not a child. At the earliest he'd be an adolescent, at the latest a young man or young adult.