[Suggestion] Remove the role restrictions on the YoRHa gear?

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Originally Posted by CazzT

Except it's not. Limitations force you to be creative with how you achieve things. In what universe is that boring?

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The universe where you run out of options.

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Originally Posted by CazzT

Except it's not and hasn't been since the first page.

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Must have a different first page than I because I only see 4 instances of people naming different pieces they want. How does that equal "lots of people want the same piece and it would ruin originality"? Probably just more strawmanning.

I just want to say that I love the responses in this thread, whether for or against it! Thank you all for participating and bringing your arguments/counter-arguments to the table.

A quick digression but I saw people mentioning the Plague Doctor/Bringer & Lost Thief coats - those should be unrestricted as well at this point. The Plague Doctor/Bringer body model has been reused for ranged DPS in ShB and recently for crafters in a dyeable variation.

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Originally Posted by CazzT

If they all look the same already, then why remove the role restrictions? Kinda shot your own argument in the foot on that one.

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Yup, realised that just now when I read it. Allow me to explain it a bit better - most gear in the game has visual "job" identity differences pertaining to it: tanks get armour, DRG probably get a variation on the tank stuff, ranged DPS get lighter armour, casters get flowy robes. In that case, I see how it could be problematic to suddenly have a caster in a full suit of armour (even though it'd be cool).

On the other hand, the YoRHa sets have minimal/no "job" variations to them (unless puffy sleeves really mean that you are a tank). Personally, I'd kill for the Tank/DRG body to wear on my Ranged DPS and the Ranged DPS hood for my GNB (who is still relatively low but there's an outfit planned already).

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Originally Posted by Gemina

I think I could possibly meet you at this level, and would love if the game currently worked this way. You'd see a healer in a caster set of a certain level and immediately know they earned it as a caster at that level, and you would have to do the same if you want your own healer to wear it. Unfortunately, they would have to rework current systems the game uses. Like I said before, it's much easier for them to just release new sets that copy those designs. As long as they are dyeable, they should suffice for the most part, and sometimes look even better than the original versions.

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This is actually a great solution! I'm currently leveling GNB for the YoRHa chest, which is both fashion and function in the current gear tier. When I get it, I should be able to trade it to a vendor once I'm "done" with it for a lv1 replica version that isn't attached to any class. That way, players around me can tell that I levelled/geared a tank class to their level. I don't think they'd have to rework a system for that, they did it right this patch in a similar way with updating crafter gear, except instead of lv1 pieces you bump them up in iLevel. That way you eliminate people snatching off-class gear up for glams and you incentivise people to level up new classes.

Won't happen unless they release replica crafting for the gear in the future. There is better things for Square to focus on.

The homogeneity argument really falls flat when all the YoRHa gear pretty much looks all the same anyways... as for why you'd want them unlocked, what's the point in having them locked? What sort of gain do you get outside of 'teehee I can use this on my favorite job and you can't'?

Many of you have probably never even played Nier so therefore do not need the glam
(i am joking)

But i agree with some, not every piece needs to be for all jobs.

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Originally Posted by Maero

Many of you have probably never even played Nier so therefore do not need the glam
(i am joking)

But i agree with some, not every piece needs to be for all jobs.

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It's on my wishlist!
I just haven't gotten around to it yet...

Didn't even manage to get caught up on msq till last monday.
Sunday was yhe day my sister and I got through 5.0.

I find it humorous that this raid with it's fashionable glam has sparked so much whining. From 2b Coffers to job restrictions.
"It doesn't even LOOK like tank gear!" this is nothing new, there's tons of tank gear that doesn't look armored. Hell, the new furry DNG gear all basically looks like mid leather gear with very lil difference. But this raid gets all the attention lol

Anyway, I've learned to get over the gear restrictions. It's a part of the game they are not gonna suddenly change. Sure, I'd be bsing if I said I didn't recently sad face as I was working on a glam and noticed that the Bone Wicca Caster boots would work great on my MCH glam. But it's not the end of the world and I find at least half my pride in a good glam comes from being creative with what I have.

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Originally Posted by Maero

Many of you have probably never even played Nier so therefore do not need the glam
(i am joking)

But i agree with some, not every piece needs to be for all jobs.

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The raid still hasn't incited me to buy the game though, despite me liking it. Ain't gonna happen. I'm not joking.

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Originally Posted by reivaxe

I find it humorous that this raid with it's fashionable glam has sparked so much whining. From 2b Coffers to job restrictions.
"It doesn't even LOOK like tank gear!" this is nothing new, there's tons of tank gear that doesn't look armored. Hell, the new furry DNG gear all basically looks like mid leather gear with very lil difference. But this raid gets all the attention lol

Anyway, I've learned to get over the gear restrictions. It's a part of the game they are not gonna suddenly change. Sure, I'd be bsing if I said I didn't recently sad face as I was working on a glam and noticed that the Bone Wicca Caster boots would work great on my MCH glam. But it's not the end of the world and I find at least half my pride in a good glam comes from being creative with what I have.

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I wouldn't say I'm whining, just bringing out a suggestion!

One of the suggestions seen above seems like a perfect fit - you need to level the class, obtain the gear piece and THEN you can use it for other classes as well in a glamour. That seems fair. You level the job, so you keep on doing old content + you get experience in the other jobs (Ranged/Melee/Caster/Healer/Tank). What's not to love about that? It gives more replay value AND makes the person feel happy when they finally achieve that perfect glamour piece that they can wear on their preferred job.

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Originally Posted by Aragogo

You level the job, so you keep on doing old content + you get experience in the other jobs (Ranged/Melee/Caster/Healer/Tank). What's not to love about that? It gives more replay value AND makes the person feel happy when they finally achieve that perfect glamour piece that they can wear on their preferred job.

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Well some of us actually suck at certain job/role.
For instance, I'm probably the worst tank player in the history of MMO.
Can keep the agro but never understood how to use my CD properly no matter how many times I tried or how many times people has tried to explain it to me. And god knows I tried so....basically, to be abble to use that glam, I would have to ruin my team mates experience by being carried on on one of the most important role for more than 30 lvls out of selfishness....
Does not seems nice imho oO