Which reminds me. I have been noticing Sales parties requesting for the potential buyer to contact them through Discord lately.
Even with cross-party finder available during 3.5 and throughout the 4.0 patch of Stormblood, it wasn't seen as much or at all.
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12-04-2017, 05:42 AMRokkuEkkusu
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12-04-2017, 05:51 AMBourne_EndeavorThose tend to involve real money or they're just trying to avoid people who have nothing better to do than try report spamming them.Quote:
Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu
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12-04-2017, 06:14 AMSuperZay...thats not how they sell Ultimate. They need to 8 man it so they ask buyer's account details to log in on it and play as 8th team member.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hestzhyen
In fact, they were always doing it with fresh raids when it couldn't be 7-manned. I know a few content sellers and they told me this. They also pretty sure 90% of their clients are gil buyers but they keep a blind eye on it. Money is money. -
12-04-2017, 08:39 AMalimdiaUnfortunately it's not solid enough to suspend people, it's obvious if you connect the dots, but connecting the dots is not hard proof, no hard proof no ban.Quote:
Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan
SE can't start a witch hunt and disregard their own principles with something that doesn't even affect the game as much as you people make it out to be. -
12-04-2017, 01:20 PMLastFireAceI'm pretty sure he mentioned ARR Coil, no Ultimate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vnolan
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12-04-2017, 08:32 PMSuperZay
So it's confirmed they are selling Ultimate for $1200 real life money and of course they need buyer's account details.
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12-04-2017, 09:01 PMKaivaCWhomever is willing to spend that...wait, whomever has that much money to throw around like that, just wow. But anybody willing to pay that much...well, heck, anybody willing to spend any kind of money to complete Ultimate is an idiot. Spending $1200 for it is just insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperZay
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12-04-2017, 10:15 PMSerLukeSadly people are catching on that the GMs don't seem to care and are doing this stuff more and more, one day I checked PF and the first 3-5 listings at the top were all clear selling listed under the wrong items. I'm just wondering what it will take for SE to finally take notice and start taking official action.Quote:
Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu
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12-04-2017, 11:26 PMViduAnd I opend the PF yesterday and the first 2 listenings were static recrutments under Shinryu EX - please tell me if thats a problem too.Quote:
Originally Posted by SerLuke
You also claim that they're under the wrong items - you mentioned expert-roulette and Lakshmi EX before. Have you asked those groups if they would be willing to sell you an expert/Lakshmi run? If they wouldnt, it would be listed under the wrong item, I agree. If they would however... how is that so different from a static recruiting via Shinryu EX when they're looking to do weekly Omega Savage, progress UCoB and farm Shinryu weapons and just happend to pick one of the raids as an example?
And believe me: I get your RMT-angle, but those ads arent RMT-ads. Its not spamming either. Its just: PFs I (and probably you too) dont wanna join, even though we would be intrested in that content. But you know what? Yesterday I was looking at about 15 Shinryu parties - two of those were the mentioned static-things, three were looking for healers, two only had 1-2 people in them, three were "Practice from the start" (cba with that anymore), one had an ilvl of 335 (not there yet) and for some reason two more didnt wanted a paladin for the tankslot (I had to open those PFs and check). That left me with two parties that I actually could and wanted to join.
My point is: There are lots of parties that you have to scroll through and that you cant or dont want to join for some reason. As long as the selling-group would sell you the content they've listed, it becomes just another of those cases if you ask me.
Everything that happens afterwards - is RMT or account sharing involved in some way? - is happening afterwards and they can get punished for that if it comes to that.
Innocent until proven guilty - you want to change the rules, so that you can prove people guilty and for what? One less PF that you have to scroll over...
Let me be clear: I dont believe that there isnt RMT involved - I do believe however that thats already prohibited and should be dealt with using those rules and regulations we already have at hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperZay
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12-04-2017, 11:34 PMLaerune
Having played MMORPGs where people drop 800 euro a month to advance, seeing 1200 dollars does not suprise me. SE needs to drop the banhammer swift and hard.