Getting refused to EX groups as a DRK

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Originally Posted by Viviza

This sounds like a story we're only getting half of.

I've yet to see a group really care about this. I suspect that the player has something to do with it, or is exaggerating.

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Probably an anti-brony policy more than anything.

My major problem with DRK is OT Sustain and MT Sustain. Bottoming out on TP after 120 seconds is pretty infuriating. No other class in the game has such a vicious drain on TP without some method of restore.

If, for example, Blood Weapon being used/expiring naturally restored 100 TP per use, or could be DA'd to restore 200 TP (if it needed a resource cost to balance it), that'd solve a lot of the TP problems (or patch it over well) that DRK has for OT sustain. MT sustain would just have to deal, I guess. 180 seconds is not good, but acceptable.

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Originally Posted by Tila

Like saying that defiance isnt real mitigation because it just ups the HP: ignoring the fact that one big point of defiance is that it also improves healing effects.

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One day, just like with the screen shot of the huge crit Fel Cleave, you will see a healer post a screen shot of like an 11k Cure II on a Warrior Tank who was in Defiance with the other Paladin cross-class HP+ healing effect skill on, with a mind potion popped, with full healing cooldowns and people will be like "Omg WHM so OP for heals." All perfect conditions with all the +Healing and stuff for the ultimate screen shot.

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Originally Posted by SirTaint

Bis EX is an i140 lvl fight, of course it felt fine at i180. All 3 tanks can go full STR and tank that fight, its zzz content. Same with Ravana EX tanks need to be i145ish for that fight.

DRK needs some tweaks and I'm sure they will get some soon. Hopefully before Alex Savage.

The biggest problem with this thread is that there is no content out there to test tanks right now. Once we are ungeared for a fight the true colors will be more obvious to the masses.

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Ironically, did BiS ex last night. Other tank was a full 170 half 180 geared drk. Myself was sitting 167 ilvl. The DRK caused a few wipes by dying to simple stuff, kept running out of mana, didn't always keep darkside up, he had problems killing the little add on P3 by himself, messed up some trash grabs etc...

Its understandable where all the "loldrk" is coming from, since it seems much more likely that a bad tank will be a DRK than one of the other classes.

And yes, at the end the two healers said they wouldn't want to group with a DRK again.

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I'm just gonna leave this here ... PS: I was in Grit (tank stance reducing dmg done by-20% like PLD's Shield Oath) half of the fight . . . .

That was a random pug, second I went into, we cleared it on 4th try

Without the power of DRK's dps as OT, I'm not sure some groups would get past the DPS checks LOL

http://i.imgur.com/l0VtXOA.jpg

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Originally Posted by Hyunckel

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I'm just gonna leave this here ... PS: I was in Grit (tank stance reducing dmg done by-20% like PLD's Shield Oath) half of the fight . . . .

That was a random pug, second I went into, we cleared it on 4th try

Without the power of DRK's dps as OT, I'm not sure some groups would get past the DPS checks LOL

http://i.imgur.com/l0VtXOA.jpg

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But that doesn't really say much. I go through dungeons outDPSing DPS players all the time in my tank stance. Hell, I had one run where I was outdoing one of the DPS by 60%. Doesn't mean DRK's output is good, it just means those DPS are criminally bad.

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Originally Posted by Mattiux

I really don't understand why SE have to build a job less usefull than the other two of the same category. This issue are so obvious, how can't you see that coming?

By the way, easy fix: put out the marauder sub-class and welcome in Lancer. Keen fury fits better with the DrK ability, invigorate can solve the TP issue ( no reason to have a TP issue when you are a MP managing class). Blood for Blood fits in the job story and mood, increasing the Dps of the bit needed to keep up with a War to use in OT stance.

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I would actually love to see this, even if I haven't leveled up lancer much yet.

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Originally Posted by Krissey

Probably an anti-brony policy more than anything.

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Yesterday, there was a guy shouting in Foundation how the largest FC on the server discriminated against him for being gay. Fun fact, the FC's leader is also, in fact, gay. Question is was he lying, or do the people in the FC not even realize?

Best part is he made a PF saying he'd give 100k to anyone that left the FC. 200k if you convinced a friend.

Another PF said the guy lied and didn't pay him.

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I'm in that FC and that person has been trying to troll and discredit the FC for days now.
We are aware and he has been reported both by FC members and by people in general that have gotten sick of his ranting, but at this point it is out of our hands and up to SE on what they decide to do on the matter.

Myself and many others in the FC have just decided to ignore them since fanning the flames will not result in anything good.

Also, yes our founder is openly gay as are others in the FC and the FC does not look kindly upon discrimination and people have been kicked for spewing hateful rhetoric in chat or shout.

When someone does something like that they will be warned by an officer to please not continue, if they keep on even when warned multiple times they will then be kicked. I have been in the FC a long time and have never seen someone get kicked for any unfair reason.

The person in question is just flipping out because they were kicked due to harassing other players in FC chat and continueing to do so after being warned multiple times. Their current actions show the type of person they are and all they are doing is making themselves look bad.

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Originally Posted by Shadow12000

Yesterday, there was a guy shouting in Foundation how the largest FC on the server discriminated against him for being gay. Fun fact, the FC's leader is also, in fact, gay. Question is was he lying, or do the people in the FC not even realize?

Best part is he made a PF saying he'd give 100k to anyone that left the FC. 200k if you convinced a friend.

Another PF said the guy lied and didn't pay him.

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Is this joke building on my joke? I'm not sure I understand :(

Brony is someone who loves My Little Pony. I was saying maybe it's not that they are excluded because they are DRK, but because they like MLP.