Real Money to Get In-Game Currency: Eternal Bond Edition

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Originally Posted by Verlyn

Again, no gil is being generated by this. RMT is bad because bots are generating inhuman amounts of gil and introducing it into the economy by selling it to people through shady services that harvest their accounts.

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The majority of RMT botting in FFXIV is accomplished through covert marketboard use, though, because generating raw gil in FFXIV is inhumanly inefficient and time consuming even for them.

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Originally Posted by Krr

The majority of RMT botting in FFXIV is accomplished through covert marketboard use, though, because generating raw gil in FFXIV is inhumanly inefficient and time consuming even for them.

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And? What does cherry picking this detail change? If you're saying that RMTraders are generating no gil at all, then you're wrong.

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Originally Posted by Verlyn

Real money might have been used to obtain the item, but the item is the thing being exchanged for gil. It's not a guaranteed change, either and the value will fluctuate by demand.
Again, no gil is being generated by this. RMT is bad because bots are generating inhuman amounts of gil and introducing it into the economy by selling it to people through shady services that harvest their accounts.

This is just some guy plunking $20 on a ring and offering it up for sale.

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SE has always had a stance that people cannot profit via the use of real money. These people are profiting from their shortsightedness as they are making gil without ANY actual effort. They are paying to win at this point as well. Whether or not the gil is being generated is not the issue here. The issue is as Chrillix says, it's someone not actually doing anything in-game and making gil for it.

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Originally Posted by Verlyn

Real money might have been used to obtain the item, but the item is the thing being exchanged for gil. It's not a guaranteed change, either and the value will fluctuate by demand.
Again, no gil is being generated by this. RMT is bad because bots are generating inhuman amounts of gil and introducing it into the economy by selling it to people through shady services that harvest their accounts.

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I have never once argued that this is generating gil. My problem is with the fact that you can indirectly buy gil (generated or not) with real money.

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Originally Posted by Verlyn

And? What does cherry picking this detail change?

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Yes, I'm sorry. Saying 10% of RMT gil throughput is green gil as opposed to 100% is cherry picking and not a massive difference at all. A difference of up to 90%? Statistically insignificant.

I'm a bit confused as to the numbers. Why would people pay real money so that they can get in game gil so that they buy something without having to spend real money.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

As you know, the promise wristlets were designed to be tradable so that one person would be able to purchase a pair of wristlets and gift one to their partner.

While the trading and selling of these items for gil is not against the terms of service, in the event this type of trend continues and topics continue to arise regarding whether or not this is considered real-money trading, we will have no choice but to change the design of this system. Therefore we would like players to stop selling and trading the bracelets for gil so that they can continue to be used for their intended purpose.

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While I'm sure everyone appreciates this response, the active community on the forums is a small representation of the overall playerbase. A pleasant and polite request here isn't going to solve this problem. You will have to take action, period.

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Originally Posted by Massterchef

There should be an option to buy in pairs, where one is bound to you and the other trade-able and made bound to your significant other. Meaning whoever you trade it to is locked into getting married to you. If anyone wants to buy a gift for a friend at a later time, an option to do so in the cash store should be available where you enter their character name/server and the bracelet will be delivered to said person.

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Players are putting up PFs asking people to marry them for just the items. So changing it like that would only stop players from buying it if they actually want to marry someone specific. Someone could still sell a marriage once a week per level 50 character they have. As for your second suggestion, that's the same thing we already have now, but there would be a higher risk of being scammed out of your 10mil or bracelet.

So wait... people are ANGRY that other people buy something using real money, selling it for in-game money, for something the angry people themselves don't want to PAY for with RL money but want?

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

As you know, the promise wristlets were designed to be tradable so that one person would be able to purchase a pair of wristlets and gift one to their partner.

While the trading and selling of these items for gil is not against the terms of service, in the event this type of trend continues and topics continue to arise regarding whether or not this is considered real-money trading, we will have no choice but to change the design of this system. Therefore we would like players to stop selling and trading the bracelets for gil so that they can continue to be used for their intended purpose.

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Good luck with that :(