I think it is time to admit the obvious - Echo is an insult to the average gamer.

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

this can't be real. My moggle HM runs are a 70% one-shot, 25% two-shot... the 5% remaining is when I solo tank, I need 20% echo for that, else I can't tank the 3 of them

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or maybe he is JUST that bad.i never seen a good king mog that exceeded 2 wipes. it so freaking easy now. perhaps back in 2.1 in it original difficulty, but the OP wasnt at endgame at that time.

also OP just because you "quit" the game back in feb, STILL DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE NEW. to be "new", you have to be join this or the previous month.

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Originally Posted by KenzieLynch

Just click the echo buff icon beside your name and it'll disappear.

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Thank you. I'm gonna give this a go (with a party of friends lol!) Can't beat some self testing. Although I might be a little disappointed if I find i suck lmao !

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Originally Posted by Taruranto

It is, get good and learn to finish the older content.

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What's the point of gating new content behind old content? Just so the elite can wave their epeen even more? Why do you care so much about other people clearing something you probably never do nowadays? If you want a Dark Souls type of game go play Dark Souls.

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Originally Posted by Mogi

No i do agree somewhat i mean i myself don't need this buff and i do think they have made some stuff way to easy :P

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I love the quote in your signature, and loved the full post even more.

/thumbsup

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Originally Posted by Synestra

Well is there a Dark Souls MMO? havent seen one yet ;_;

But personally i really dont care about Echo much, but only downside with it is that it breeds "not so good players" as they really dont need to push their character/class/personal gaming skills to maximum performance. I would love to see every player casual or not wanting to become best FFXIV player instead taking easier route :(

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So then a question comes to mind. If players who aren't as good as the top tier player base (whatever % that might be) want to work through six month old content, then they need to be pushing themselves to top tier performance? Because if that's the case we will end up burning out the casual section of our player base, the majority who pay for additional content for others.

I would like to add that everyone of us can reach skill and performance level like BG members have if wanted, for some it might take longer but with time you will get there aslong as you have patience, commonsense, lots of practice and most of all motivation to push yourself to the limits of your skills. This game is not hard at all if you are even remotely trying, its just that too many players seems to giveup after few failures or just dont care to improve and that makes me kinda sad ;_;

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Originally Posted by Synestra

I would like to add that everyone of us can reach skill and performance level like BG members have if wanted, for some it might take longer but with time you will get there aslong as you have patience, commonsense, lots of practice and most of all motivation to push yourself to the limits of your skills. This game is not hard at all if you are even remotely trying, its just that too many players seems to giveup after few failures or just dont care to improve and that makes me kinda sad ;_;

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Originally Posted by Nel_Celestine

If players who aren't as good as the top tier player

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Everyone can be so called top tier if they really want, but you really dont even need to be one if you are not interested in worldfirst race. For some wierd reason is still have some faith in peoples o.O

I'm okay with the Buff. It helps with one single Flaw this game holds, that as a single person in a group of 4-8, you can do everything right, but it only takes one to mess it all up. If that One person needs help, to allow the rest of us to carry on, So be it, and let's move on.
Eventually, said persons wouldn't even need the buff themselves. Who here still needs training wheels to ride a bike? (If you do I am retract my statement.)

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Originally Posted by Synestra

Everyone can be so called top tier if they really want, but you really dont even need to be one if you are not interested in worldfirst race. For some wierd reason is still have some faith in peoples o.O

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Materia breaks.
RNG loot.
Unreliable players.
Gilseller /tells.

If I really wanted to, REALLY tried at it. I too can enjoy being a curmudgeon who stays up till 12:00am(oh I'm sorry, 9pm PST) yelling at people on the teamspeak or jamming inane comments in fights that don't make a lick of sense.

What a wonderful thing to look forward to.

Whenever I enter an instance that has Echo going on, I remove mine.

As has been pointed out, if you don't want echo click the buff to dismiss it and stop trying to force your own play style on strangers