FFXIV: Different and Unique

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Originally Posted by Nuru

I didn't exactly say it was unique at all, but the point i am trying to make is that if they wanted FFXIV to be like any other MMORPG out there, they would have done it by now.

I'll judge the uniqueness of a game when it is finished. This game is not even close to being done. I suppose by the time the battle patch is released, i'll write you an essay about how unique it is or how lame and dull it is and compare it to battle systems of other mmorpgs.

I'm not calling you out on anything, but you want an answer, and you shall have an answer. I'll look into it.

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LOL :P OK.

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Originally Posted by kukurumei

Less movies and more reality.

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So you mean I will never have a vampire that sparkles & a werewolf fight for my love... though truthfully I will pick the vampire because I'm shallow that way.*tearing up*

Why do you have to ruin it.... *runs away crying*

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Originally Posted by kukurumei

So instead of betting on odds and evens you want to bet it'll land on it's edge. Well let me tell you something, anyone can talk big, but very few deliver it, and sometimes it's by pure chance.

It's Delusions Of Grandeur. Let's face it, if you want to bet your livelyhood on a lottery of a million or more to one odds, sure, but I say the odds are you'll instead is to go out and get a lame boring job...and maybe even a better then just lame job.

Less movies and more reality.

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I dont know exactly what you are replying to in my post? to me you seem to be agreeing with me that it is much easier to just settle for doing easy lame things then play odds and try to make greatmess. If so then yes that is my point. If you are disagreeing with me i dont quite understand your post im afraid :(

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Originally Posted by Shyd

FF is i think the only mmo that has a warning label before you log in?

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FF 14 doesnt need a warning label because for most it wont keep you occupied for more then 20 mins before you say "wow lmao, anyone wanna play monopoly?!"

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Originally Posted by Vanguard319

I've known a few people who left to play Rift, only to come back because Rift was just a carbon copy of WoW. That should tell you how tired ppl are of playing the same thing, yet as soon as someone comes up with something original, they immediately b@#$! about it, and demand it be changed into what they're familiar. It's like Immortality in the literary sense, the hero may desire it, but when he finds it, it's almost always a curse.

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Thats because i think most fans of FF want XIV to be a offspring of the awesome XI not WOW FF online fans most i know were expecting just that a upgraded version of the brilliance that was XI, or at least keep the meat and potatoes of what made that game great!

WHY DO PPL KEEP SAYING FANS OF FF EXPECTED OR WANTED A WOW CLONE FROM SE?

FF and WoW are soooooo different and anyone that liked wow seemed to hate XI so why would they come to XIV expecting anything to be like wow?
Its obvious that alot that dont like this game were XI Fans that expected "XI-2" or at least something close to being as good if not better....
Get mad if you want say what you will but for some reason i think this is a bit more than just my opinion.
Look at he threads theres tons of them about just what i said, you see a few haters but i think its pretty commonly agreed upon opinion.... sigh..

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I don't want them to make FFXIV a typical MMO, but that's what they are doing atm. Instead of fixing flaws in those unique features, they remove them completely and replace them with cookiecutter ones - the more they do it, the more of a cookiecutter FFXIV becomes and the less chances they have to see me stay.

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same thing for me.

WTF Square-Enix!!, thought you guys were pioneers of RPG stuff and a MMO is about as RPG as you can get.

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Originally Posted by Mack

I love how everyone rides on the phrase, "this game has potential"...in reality every game has potential, the only reason any of us stick around is because we're either (1) hardcore FF fans, (2) ex-FFXI fans, or (3) retarded :P jk. But seriously every game has potential, imo FFXIV is no different and I see this potential dwindling with each passing patch - I think this game is now trying to appease to the majority so they can try and drag in as many casual players as possible, especially on the PS3, so imo any potential this had is seeping out slowly and its faster and faster turning into your typical run of the mill MMO.

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Man I agree with this guy, but i will also say that Wow is the typical MMORPG prototype that ppl keep seeming to want to clone, there are tons that have the same mechanics as wow, same look feel everything, BUT of all the MMORPG's i've played and trust me i have played tons f2p and p2p, there hasnt been one simular to FFXI classes, gameplay, battle, strategy, community, none not one simular at all.

Tell me one game, just one that is even close to being simular to XI.
So when I hear that they think that the new team may be trying to please the masses and make this game overly casual and appeal to the masses like so many other mmorpg's, you really cant add the flag ship SE mmo to that list not at all, because final fantasy XI was original and innovative.

XI was nothing at all like wow, therefor by its own standard it was inovative and original. I wont say I am not biased but I think anyone that has played a number of MMORPG'S as I have can easily tell you this FACT.

SE hit the jackpot with XI with SOOOO many players racking in cash for sooooo long, with a formula that was hated by most wow fans because it was sooo different from that and every other "typical MMORPG" when the standards are being seen as anything that was in wow like it was the 1st mmorpg which it wasnt. So why in the hell would they Decide to go away from what was a successful formula to be another copy of wow?

As bad as this game is, from head to toe aweful IMO I rather see it keep the 10-15 ppl that I see in these forums attacking anyone that wants to see it change,win or see it get shut down rather then see it be another wow clone.

If they wanna clone something or lets say build on the ideas of a successful MMORPG why not take some of what they have in house which is XI, that was SE's inovative revolutionary mmorpg. Not really saying carbon copy, but build on, make tweaks and advancements to an original ideal of what is already theirs.
Lets face it with gaming today nothing is REALLY new just a twist to a already used idea system ect.

SSSOOO why completely ignor every aspect of what made XI great and instead try to drop in crap from WoW?
You think when Blizzard makes its next MMORPG after WoW its gonna say "Ok WoW was nice for us, made us all rich, little kids everywhere loved it, so lets forget every thing that we did and do something completely different it probably wont work but screw it were rich we can waste a few bucks."

HELL NO! Its gonna be "WoW-2" with better cartoon visuals, and higher pogo stick jumping, and like the many many MANY pokeman(black,White,Teal,Pancake) all the little kids will love the new WoW as well, watch what i tell you now...

Did i read a while back that the new producer is a wow fan and former wow player?
I hope i am imagining that.
Because If he is and that means he's like logging off of wow and going to work man we are screwed! =P

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Tell me one game just one that is even close to being simular to XI.

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NONE!
only FFXI is like FFXI. square should be proud about that, but looks like they just want maximum sub base and it fail on them, and 10 years later FFXI is still going.

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Originally Posted by Mack

OK maybe I'm wrong so go ahead and tell me what stands out to you as "unique" about this game? maybe I am legitimately wrong, I'm not trying to mock you or anything, but If unique means daily repeatable quests that are more a hindrance to fun that straight out grinding then I don't want unique. If unique means that entire zones outside the city walls is equivalent to a pre-level 10 zone in every other MMO in existence then I don't want unique. If unique means large maps that are a bore to look at and explore then I don't want unique. What is unique exactly? is it the crafting system? sure its nice but its nothing special and it has been done to some degree in the same way in other games like Everquest I believe...and considering this game isn't a crafting game, I don't want unique. If by unique you mean it has the most beautiful graphics of any MMO, sure but at what expense?

So what is unique about this game exactly? and in your opinion where has the dev team taken this game? all I see are patches inducing shallow quests that are even more boring, shallow mobs they called NMs although they are hardly notorious since we see them more often than their "placeholders" and instanced dungeons are on the way...nothing unique and the game is turning into your typical run of the mill MMO imo. Maybe you see things differently and its not like I want this for this game but this is exactly all I see.

And please don't tell me that the Market Wards are unique, they are the most retarded idea to date.

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Wow man you wanna grab a beer and watch my miami heat get killed? my wife is making subs!
We are on the same page dude, this says it all!

Isn't it tradition for every final fantasy game to have a complete unique experience from one another? Like different battle systems/stories/environment etc? I believe that was what FFXIV was trying to accomplish and failed.