Sense mob aggro by X

so are mobs aggroing by specific senses being thrown out the window ? some of us like a little complexity with our games

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Originally Posted by Carzilla

so are mobs aggroing by specific senses being thrown out the window ? some of us like a little complexity with our games

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Are you asking because you read something that states otherwise?
Or just making a thread because you want to start a troll fest? lol
Something about that tone warns of troll fest 2013.

If you read something that says agro is being thrown out, please post a link to substantiate your topic.

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Originally Posted by Solace

Are you asking because you read something that states otherwise?
Or just making a thread because you want to start a troll fest? lol
Something about that tone warns of troll fest 2013.

If you read something that says agro is being thrown out, please post a link to substantiate your topic.

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lol troll look whos talking. I dont need a link either.
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There hasnt been any spells besides the ones given to DOH to avoid mobs. are invisible, hide scent, silent steps, deoderize etc etc going to be left out ?

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Originally Posted by Carzilla

lol troll look whos talking. I dont need a link either.
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There hasnt been any spells besides the ones given to DOH to avoid mobs. are invisible, hide scent, silent steps, deoderize etc etc going to be left out ?

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Some mobs aggro by sight - you can jump up and down behind them and they won't aggro.
Some mobs aggro by sound - you can walk around waving your arms in their face and they won't aggro.
Some mobs aggro by sight & sound - you can only walk behind them.

You don't need spells to avoid aggro, just intelligence. Spells took the risk out of it to be honest, and I personally would rather not see those spells in the game.

Smell I think was an old concept in XI that didn't really work very well because there were very few mobs in the game that aggro'd by scent. I can't recall ever casting "Deodorize" for an actual reason other then to annoy people.

(As far as I know)

Mobs will still aggro in different ways/with different senses.

Example: Some mobs detect by direct line of sight, others by sound. So you need a little knowledge and skill to safely navigate a group of strong aggressive monsters.

What you're requesting is a simplification - the ability to navigate safely simply by using an item/ability. They have already said that they will not be adding these types of item, IIRC.

Wait what am I doing this is a troll post damnit I'm bored. BETA PLEASE :(

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Originally Posted by Carzilla

lol troll look whos talking. I dont need a link either.
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There hasnt been any spells besides the ones given to DOH to avoid mobs. are invisible, hide scent, silent steps, deoderize etc etc going to be left out ?

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Might of been a good idea to post that in the OP, don't you think?
Instead of the vague sentence you posted.
Helps to clarify what you are talking about, if you want a sensible response.

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Originally Posted by Solace

Might of been a good idea to post that in the OP, don't you think?
Instead of the vague sentence you posted.
Helps to clarify what you are talking about, if you want a sensible response.

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Who kicked your puppy ? lol

I just want the feature of "where the hell did that come from, I swear to god that wasn't there a second ago" to be removed. It's hard enough to sneak around as is. Jeez.

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Originally Posted by Carzilla

lol troll look whos talking. I dont need a link either.

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You do need a link when you make claims with no basis- you make a wild and instigative statement, then when asked to back up your claim, you refuse. That's a recipe for trolling. Asking for proof of your claims, on the other hand, is not trolling.

They're not removing different kinds of aggro.

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There hasnt been any spells besides the ones given to DOH to avoid mobs.

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You avoid mobs by being clever and careful with your movements. That's more "complexity" than casting a spell to make aggro go away.

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Originally Posted by Carzilla

so are mobs aggroing by specific senses being thrown out the window ? some of us like a little complexity with our games

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It may or may not, but they are making this game fit in and having mechanics like that, sadly, just annoys the playerbase they're trying to target.

Mobs aggro sight and sound in XIV.
Mobs USED to aggro you but give you a "You're too damn close, you better back off before I eat you" type warning before eating your face.

Comparatively, in FFXI you have:
-Sound
-Sight
-Magic
-Blood
-Ability
-Job (Used only once as far as I remember.)
-Smell (Tracking mainly)

Of course throw in the true detection and well, that about covers the types. In XI some things also grow aggressive based on your actions, the Fomor mobs in Tavnazia area for example won't care for you until you start farming them, then they becomes true sound aggro and gain a boost to their defense down move (dropping your defense to 0.) or if you go to Tu'lia and step into the light..well, depending...that's your ass.

Just a large variety of mob detection that may or may not make its way into ARR since if you've seen recent MMOs, how much attention to detail were put in compared to when SE made XI and XIV? XIV had its faults but SE didn't skip on attention to detail.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

You avoid mobs by being clever and careful with your movements. That's more "complexity" than casting a spell to make aggro go away.

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You mean by hitting x or hopping on your chocobo/gobbue or using your DoL ability instead, right?