People advertising they're running Parsers

Cute switching out the letter P with B, but no.

Don't do it, you know it's not allowed. You want to run your Abacus with yourself of your group of friends together, go for it.

Don't ask, Don't tell is still very much in play, people can and will report you for it and if you get caught you're in trouble.

Run your calculator quietly, don't go shouting it out that you are going to check others with your math tools and decide if they can play with you.

Look, as long as they're not abusing anyone by using them all the more power to them.

Parsers is fully legit to use as they doesnt affect the game in any way. What IS bannable though is harrashment of other players, which telling them they are bad due to low dps etc. on parsers is.

Basically, use them to better oneself, not to try to ridicule others.

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Originally Posted by Pavise

Look, as long as they're not abusing anyone by using them all the more power to them.

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Everyone has secrets. If you are using it then keep quiet about it. I know I would if I were them.

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Originally Posted by Medura

Parsers is fully legit to use as they doesnt affect the game in any way. What IS bannable though is harrashment of other players, which telling them they are bad due to low dps etc. on parsers is.

Basically, use them to better oneself, not to try to ridicule others.

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Actually the TOS prohibits software that modifies the games code, so it isn't "legit." They just choose not to enforce it...for now.

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

Cute switching out the letter P with B, but no.

Don't do it, you know it's not allowed. You want to run your Abacus with yourself of your group of friends together, go for it.

Don't ask, Don't tell is still very much in play, people can and will report you for it and if you get caught you're in trouble.

Run your calculator quietly, don't go shouting it out that you are going to check others with your math tools and decide if they can play with you.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQuy1pG2TqQ

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Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

Unfortunately, the social scene in this community has changed quite a bit. Parsers are gaining more acceptance along with FFLogs. Plugins are seamlessly integrated into the game with Dalamud, and FFLogs has become an insurmountable community staple in the raiding scene. Streamers and the influx of raiders from World of Warcraft have promoted these new additions, and so people are more brazen than ever. To them, plugins and parsers aren’t the forbidden fruit, they’re normal. They’re what FFXIV is supposed to be about. The game is just changing, and until Square Enix puts a stop to it (removing the battle log would be a quick solution), it will continue by the will of the players.

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Hate to break this to you. People been Parsing since ARR. It was in the community then nothings changed.

That's nice dear.

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Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume

Actually the TOS prohibits software that modifies the games code, so it isn't "legit." They just choose not to enforce it...for now.

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Parsers - unlike mods that change gear appearance or whatever - DON'T modify the game code; they just read the data being sent to the client and tabulate it.

Still technically a TOS violation, but as far as anyone can tell, nobody's been banned ONLY for parsing.

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Originally Posted by Medura

Parsers is fully legit to use as they doesnt affect the game in any way. What IS bannable though is harrashment of other players, which telling them they are bad due to low dps etc. on parsers is.

Basically, use them to better oneself, not to try to ridicule others.

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Advertising you're going to use it in PF is saying you'll use it to scrutinise others that join. The thing SE doesn't want people doing. You wish to use your Abacus great, fab, I like writing math on a sheet too...

But that's my business

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

Cute switching out the letter P with B, but no.

Don't do it, you know it's not allowed. You want to run your Abacus with yourself of your group of friends together, go for it.

Don't ask, Don't tell is still very much in play, people can and will report you for it and if you get caught you're in trouble.

Run your calculator quietly, don't go shouting it out that you are going to check others with your math tools and decide if they can play with you.

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Unfortunately, the social scene in this community has changed quite a bit. Parsers are gaining more acceptance along with FFLogs. Plugins are seamlessly integrated into the game with Dalamud, and FFLogs has become an insurmountable community staple in the raiding scene. Streamers and the influx of raiders from World of Warcraft have promoted these new additions, and so people are more brazen than ever. To them, plugins and parsers aren’t the forbidden fruit, they’re normal. They’re what FFXIV is supposed to be about. The game is just changing, and until Square Enix puts a stop to it (removing the battle log would be a quick solution), it will continue by the will of the players.