I love 5.1 Summoner changes!

I really love the 5.1 Summoner changes. I really have a lot of fun on Summoner now, and like the feeling of being strong again. Thank you to all the developers who made all of these awesome changes.

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Its only "major" problem is Dreadwyrm Trance.
Now there's absolutely no reason to stay for its full duration, basically using its Deathflare ASAP.

Personally, I think Demi-Bahamut should've been integrated into it (similar to Firebird Trance).

Other than that, I (mostly) agree.

That said, I'm still waiting on proper Egi glamours for it (e.g. Ramuh-Egi)...

Me too. SMN also finally has our dps justification after waiting for so long.

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Originally Posted by Super_Smiley

I really love the 5.1 Summoner changes. I really have a lot of fun on Summoner now, and like the feeling of being strong again. Thank you to all the developers who made all of these awesome changes.

~Fin~

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That's the spirit!

I can finally feel my pet has some weight on the encounters and not just being fillers and the extra movement its nice

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Originally Posted by Exodus-E

Its only "major" problem is Dreadwyrm Trance.
Now there's absolutely no reason to stay for its full duration, basically using its Deathflare ASAP.

Personally, I think Demi-Bahamut should've been integrated into it (similar to Firebird Trance).

Other than that, I (mostly) agree.

That said, I'm still waiting on proper Egi glamours for it (e.g. Ramuh-Egi)...

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This is my biggest complaint as well. It just feels so superfluous and serves no point. Merge that bad boy into DWT, make our GCD's into something like a 1, 1, 1, 2 system where Ruin 2 is replaced by ruin 4 but doesn't use Further ruin stacks, and three uses of further ruin turns Ruin 3 into a GCD of Deathflare so we can keep that awesome animation.

Not saying it needs to be like that, but man Firebird Trance just feels so DAMN GOOD, and DWT and Bahamut just don't. I can put up with the rigid aetherflow mechanics and downtime punishments if both my major burst phases feel amazing.

I dont mind the changes, but finding a button layout and a rotation I'm comfortable with is driving me batty, T.T.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

I dont mind the changes, but finding a button layout and a rotation I'm comfortable with is driving me batty, T.T.

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I'm compiling an updated gallery of UI layouts for both KBM and Gamepad players on the akhmorning website as examples for players to get inspiration from. If I get enough images, I'll put it up tonight.

Personally I find the class to be rather clunky. I do not like the Egi Assaults being on the GCD considering they conflict with your Trance rotations.

They only conflict with Firebird Trance and Demi-Bahamut, the rotation has you use them in the 40s every minute around them. With a bit of practice, it really isn't so bad. EAs even as OGCDs still had similar limitations before.

@Eloah: Here's the first batch of UI examples as promised. We're in the process of updating everything rotation related for 5.10. Opener section is done, rotation is a WIP and Demis need an update.