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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Actually they already mentioned there will be new stuff.
    The double split chat box that I mentioned, but also PT/Alliance TP/MP data (that you can already see if you use Windower or similar tools).
    Going by these lines, I was just wondering if there will be more or not.
    You'll have to source this. Never heard anything of the sort. I don't think they'd ever give us alliance TP/MP because it's not fair to the console players.

    Being able to play at 1920x1080 instead of 540xXXX (PS2) is already an "unfair" difference if you want to see things that way.
    A higher resolution isn't really an imbalance because it's purely asthetic. 16:9 FoV is available on all platforms as far as I know, so there is no advantage in field of vision.

    because the next step would be to consider unfair the fact that some PC users can load zones faster thanks to SSD hard disks,
    FFXI isn't installed on my SSD (I have one) because I don't think it will benefit. zones already load so fast that the performance gain doesn't matter.

    The only thing here that would truly be unfair is revealing alliance TP/MP and hidden stats, because those are things even legitimate PC players don't have, let alone the console versions. As I said, you'll have to source this information for me to believe it. i would agree with your "its just an excuse sentiment," but it is a legitimate concern, so you can't just go out and say that. I think everyone is just expecting it to do that becaues widower lets us do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    You'll have to source this. Never heard anything of the sort. I don't think they'd ever give us alliance TP/MP because it's not fair to the console players.
    I can't find a source on it either, though they did come out and say they're gonna allow users to make there own scripts for it. It's not clear what this means, but I'm thinking it's gonna be like UI mods/plugins for other games that official support them. Since the TP info and such is already in the game (just not shown) I'm pretty sure there's gonna be a script to use with the new UI to see that data. We got to wait and see I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    You'll have to source this.
    About what? The chat box? Look for Tanaka posts about it when he was talking a bout the new UI.
    And about new data displayed? There was a survay done by... Camate I think, or another community rep, where he told us which other data can be displayed on screen in addition to the ones already available, and asked us to voice our opinion concerning that list.
    It's different from saying "we are definitely going to do that", but it's pretty clear that they are thinking/working to do something along those lines.


    A higher resolution isn't really an imbalance because it's purely asthetic. 16:9 FoV is available on all platforms as far as I know, so there is no advantage in field of vision.
    Tell that to people who need to heal alliance members, or to those who need to have a clear and better idea on what's going on in the battleground.
    Have you ever played on an PS2? Have you ever played in 1080p? You'd clearly know what I'm talking of.
    And I mean playing, not just touching the pad for a few minutes.
    There's a lot of things you notice (and apreciate) only when you play extensively in both ways.


    FFXI isn't installed on my SSD (I have one) because I don't think it will benefit. zones already load so fast that the performance gain doesn't matter.
    It does, the difference it's not huge but it's there.
    Worth putting on an SSD? Wouldn't say that, unless you have a big one.
    But even so, what's the point you're taking? I'm a bit lost here.
    Nobody said you should install it on your SSD, you're free to do whatever you want of course.
    I was just saying it does offer an advantage to people who do.
    It's the same if you have a high quality swedish cable line compared to a low quality DSL or a PSTN line.
    It's the same if you're japanese and live close to the server.
    Those are all aspects that create clear advantage to some players instead of others.

    We did a Chocobo LS race some time ago.
    The swedish guy with cable connection (who also happen to have the game on SSD) was appearing on the other side of the loading zones much faster than the rest of us. After a couple of zones he was way far ahead than everybody else.
    Just an example of the fact there already are a fuckton of differences, you're just lying to yourself so that you won't have to go through the effort to change your opinion, barricading yourself underneath it.

    SE couldn't care less about fairness and all that, they just wanted an excuse to avoid doing some things, just like they've been lying for years about not being able to do something, just to do it a few years after because they wanted to. ><
    [/rant mode off]

    But seriously, it's time they stop with the stupid and anachronistic excuse of being fair toward everyone, it's never been like that anyway, it was just a silly (and unfair!) excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    You'll have to source this. Never heard anything of the sort. I don't think they'd ever give us alliance TP/MP because it's not fair to the console players.
    It's data already fed to the client...for all systems.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    It's data already fed to the client...for all systems.
    Dude, that discussion was resolved already. Besides that, I'm well aware the client gets this information. But it's not displayed in the game currently, and I had doubts that they would actually let it be displayed legitimately.

    I thought they mentioned that the new UI was going to be more mouse-friendly.
    Yes, but it will still be keyboard friendly too.
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