Ok...let me level with you here SE...

[Kimble]

Atoreis pretty much said in his first post he doesnt want us to whine about the relic trial stage 1 because hes scared that SE will also change the empy stage 1 trial due to "balance". We told him thats the risk he took for buying those items early.

Now hes just trying to backpeddle and save face.

[Prothscar]

Empyreans would cost, with 60 dross/cinder for basic and 3,000 for afterglow, assuming 1.5m dross/cinder which is in the middle of the high/low, and 100k per plate:

240,000,000 for the basic 99 trial (+5 stat and +10~25 base damage depending on the weapon)

4,650,000,000 for the afterglow


How is that reasonable Atoreis.

Hint: it isn't.

Btw, if curious, if each cinder/dross cost 3m, it'd cost 9,150,000,000. Nine billion gil. The difference between, using Ukonvasara as an example, a lv90 weapon and 99 weapon is 7% DoT.

[Nynja]

you cant really guage a value for dross/cinder now because the trial isnt even out, and come next patch the next chapter of VW will be out...those items may drop in greater quantity.

all u have now is dumdums rushing to get their 5 minutes of fame for being ZOMGFIRST

[Catsby]

you cant really guage a value for dross/cinder now because the trial isnt even out, and come next patch the next chapter of VW will be out...those items may drop in greater quantity.

all u have now is dumdums rushing to get their 5 minutes of fame for being ZOMGFIRST

And it ruins the game for the rest of us with other shit we want to do (in AND out of game)

[Greatguardian]

you cant really guage a value for dross/cinder now because the trial isnt even out, and come next patch the next chapter of VW will be out...those items may drop in greater quantity.

all u have now is dumdums rushing to get their 5 minutes of fame for being ZOMGFIRST

Except that Jeuno Part 2 doesn't drop Heavy Metal Plates.

[Nynja]

Except that Jeuno Part 2 doesn't drop Heavy Metal Plates.

Except the use for rift cinder/dross isnt even in game yet, its actual use should coincide with the creation of the next tier of voidwatch

[Ravenmore]

Except the use for rift cinder/dross isnt even in game yet, its actual use should coincide with the creation of the next tier of voidwatch

You are trying to mix logic with SE logic, thats like crossing the streams.

[Insaniac]

My guess would be that Zilart part 2 drops pouches. If they do make a Zilart part 2.

[Greatguardian]

My guess would be that Zilart part 2 drops pouches. If they do make a Zilart part 2.

I'd like that, but I've learned not to get my hopes up. I think the Devs are fully capable of expecting players to continuously do lower tiers if they want drops for Empyrean upgrades.

[Babekeke]

Someone needs to show me how to make '1-3 mil' per dyna run ><

Is it just from BST solo?