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    Key Binding Why Hasn't This Been Added To The Menus?

    Key binding would probably eliminate server lag if we could actually bind our keys for spells, abillities, pet commands etc. Why hasn't this been added to FF XI? Is this a memory issue with the PS2? Or is the Dev team to small and too busy working on fixes for older content?
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    Probably an issue with spaghetti code, but technically, that's what macros are for. Not sure what "server lag" you're talking about though, because the only server lag that exists would not be eliminated by binding "Cure" to the C key. It would still lag for a second before casting the spell, the same as it does when using the menu or the macro bar.

    I use a Logitech G-15 keyboard. My G-keys are bound to CTRL-# and alt # (except for ctrl/alt 1, which i can reach easily).

    When I tap the key, my macro goes off. if you're talking about the lag in the macro bar appearing on screen, that is not a server lag issue, it's an interface flaw and the fact that my keyboard gets around it tells me its more about how we're pressing the keys (because all my G-keys do is press CTRL/ALT and the number at the exact same time)
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    Okay it may not be server lag but there is still a delay between when you press ctrl or alt and when your macro bar appears on the screen. If I could bind my keys it would eliminate that delay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    Okay it may not be server lag but there is still a delay between when you press ctrl or alt and when it appears on screen. If I could bind my keys it would eliminate that delay.
    if you press the keys together with the right timing, you shouldn't have to wait for the macro bar to appear. They should just work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    if you press the keys together with the right timing, you shouldn't have to wait for the macro bar to appear. They should just work.
    That does not work for me sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    That does not work for me sir.
    Woks for me. You should probably try to fix that if it isn't working for you. Would probably save you a lot of headache.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    Woks for me. You should probably try to fix that if it isn't working for you. Would probably save you a lot of headache.
    Same here, Ctrl/Alt + # always works, whether or not the bar shows up. What I don't understand is why it doesn't show up immediately when Ctrl/Alt are hit in the first place, like it does with controllers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Same here, Ctrl/Alt + # always works, whether or not the bar shows up. What I don't understand is why it doesn't show up immediately when Ctrl/Alt are hit in the first place, like it does with controllers.
    It's most likely because ctrl/alt can be used with other keys for certain purposes and it wants to make sure you're not going to press one of those. Either way, I agree it's silly, but at least it doesn't HAVE to get in the way.
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    Xbox 360 player here. I tried it on my usb keyboard cause I was being lazy and didn't want to use my countroller when I was messing around. I can honestly say it works for me too. Based on what I've read so far, not a not of difference from PC users.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    When I tap the key, my macro goes off. if you're talking about the lag in the macro bar appearing on screen, that is not a server lag issue, it's an interface flaw and the fact that my keyboard gets around it tells me its more about how we're pressing the keys (because all my G-keys do is press CTRL/ALT and the number at the exact same time)
    It's a poor decision in the UI design based on a logical but flawed assumption. The macro bar appears instantly when you press the shoulder buttons on a controller but takes about a quarter of a second to appear when you hold down the CTRL key. If you hit CTRL/# and release before the macro pallet appears the macro will still be triggered. They probably thought something along the lines of "lets have the macro pallet not appear if someone hits CTRL/# because they obviously know what macro they want, but if they hold down CRTL long enough we'll have it appear so they can locate the macro they're searching for"

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I use a Logitech G-15 keyboard. My G-keys are bound to CTRL-# and alt # (except for ctrl/alt 1, which i can reach easily).
    I can't stand modern keyboards. Once you have used an mechanical keyboard you'll never be able to tolerate membrane switch based keyboards ever again. They might cost more but they typically last 15 years or longer. (my IBM Model M was made in 1989 and I've been using it since the mid 90's)
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