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    No taxation without representation.

    When, in the course of Vana'dielian events, the developers begin considering imposing taxes on us without our consent:

    Source:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/7450-Port-Jeuno-congestion...?p=217834#post217834

    we need to speak up as a community. No taxation without representation. So, community members, do we want the taxes back, amidst the inflation that has gone on, where a Quake scroll that was once 3K is now 300K, and an outdated spell known as Raise III, which does not benefit the purchaser, is now 1 million gil?

    I say NO. Taxes should be taken out of this game completely, unless it's what players want. Taxes do not create harmony, especially when the taxed money goes into a black hole, and not to any cause at all.
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    Perhaps all the tax money can be added to the Mog Bonanza gil prize for your server.
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    2/10, would not recommend to anyone because the post was replaced with a bobcat.
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    *groan*

    It's just a video game.
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    We'll dump that Jeunoan tea into the sea.
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    ...wtf. I do NOT want the Tea Party invading Vana'diel. There is no use of "taxes" for any political affiliation in the game. It's just a gil sink and deterrent from afk over-crowding of bazaars. There's still the auction house or... I dunno... moving to another area to avoid your wares being subjected to tax.

    As for the inflation... wtf does taxing has to do with that? As new content arises and need for stuff forgotten increases as well as demand for the job that uses them, what do you think will happen?
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    If waiting 15 minutes is such an issue to you, I hope you never get stuck in public transport or in an elevator. You probably will go insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    ...wtf. I do NOT want the Tea Party invading Vana'diel.
    Please tell me you knew this was an actual event in American history BEFORE the name was stolen for a buncha right-wing hee-haws....


    Please?
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    BOOMSTICK you roll into there yellin DODONGO DISLIEKS SMOEK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfandre View Post
    Please tell me you knew this was an actual event in American history BEFORE the name was stolen for a buncha right-wing hee-haws....


    Please?
    No, I'm an ignorant American without even the most basic grade school knowledge of my own country's history....
    Yes I know. And yes, I also know that those people have all but near changed the definition of what the tea party is and stood for. And personally I cringe when I hear stuff like this now.... my rl profession currently is preparing personal tax returns during the tax season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    If waiting 15 minutes is such an issue to you, I hope you never get stuck in public transport or in an elevator. You probably will go insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    No, I'm an ignorant American without even the most basic grade school knowledge of my own country's history....
    Yes I know. And yes, I also know that those people have all but near changed the definition of what the tea party is and stood for. And personally I cringe when I hear stuff like this now.... my rl profession currently is preparing personal tax returns during the tax season.
    Sorry for coming off so harsh; didn't mean it like that. Thanks for affirming that . I agree, they have changed the meaning of the term...but let's not talk politics.

    On topic: There really isn't much they can do to allieviate the congestion problem. Taking the AH out and forcing taxes again will just force people into Ru'Lude. Doing the same to Ru'Lude will stem player growth by not giving us a hub where everything they need is. Either do something to make congestion less of an issue *coughps2cough*, or give people a reason to populate other zones EQUALLY.

    The /yell feature was what FFXI had been missing for a while, despite me not wanting it personally. The limitations placed on it, however, make it less attractive. On Asura, we STILL have schmucks camping in Port Jeuno, spamming in shout, then /yelling the same thing every minute.

    I also agree on taxes, but only a little. Taxes will make people go, but the money sink seems silly to me. I know, I know, inflation, blah blah blah. Make that gil go somewhere, and do something that doesn't directly affect the game. Make some sort of grand reward server-wide every once in a while that depends 100% on the sales tax taken from each bazaar.

    I dunno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rearden View Post
    BOOMSTICK you roll into there yellin DODONGO DISLIEKS SMOEK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    Taxes hurt job creators.
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    We really, really do not need them to add Time Mage and Artist to the game.
    My stomach. D: It hurts. Can't stop laughing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfandre View Post
    Sorry for coming off so harsh; didn't mean it like that. Thanks for affirming that . I agree, they have changed the meaning of the term...but let's not talk politics.

    On topic: There really isn't much they can do to allieviate the congestion problem. Taking the AH out and forcing taxes again will just force people into Ru'Lude. Doing the same to Ru'Lude will stem player growth by not giving us a hub where everything they need is. Either do something to make congestion less of an issue *coughps2cough*, or give people a reason to populate other zones EQUALLY.

    The /yell feature was what FFXI had been missing for a while, despite me not wanting it personally. The limitations placed on it, however, make it less attractive. On Asura, we STILL have schmucks camping in Port Jeuno, spamming in shout, then /yelling the same thing every minute.

    I also agree on taxes, but only a little. Taxes will make people go, but the money sink seems silly to me. I know, I know, inflation, blah blah blah. Make that gil go somewhere, and do something that doesn't directly affect the game. Make some sort of grand reward server-wide every once in a while that depends 100% on the sales tax taken from each bazaar.

    I dunno.
    There's means to spread out in jeuno with /yell... but it was poorly executed because SE had this brilliant ideal to have it automatically filtered. There's still a LARGE amount of players who never bother to visit the official site or forums for update detail so they didn't know how to use the yell feature and now don't know that it's not filtered anymore. I still see people shouting & yelling for stuff when it's not necessary.

    There should be a way to /yell across all all cities. It's proven it can be done since the name plus location of yell is there. I believe that would be a better way of dealing with congestion and also repopulate home nations and not just jeuno or whitegate.

    Though... /yell suffers from a delay in which you can't do it as often as shouting. I guess that's a reason it's not very popular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    If waiting 15 minutes is such an issue to you, I hope you never get stuck in public transport or in an elevator. You probably will go insane.

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