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  1. #11
    Player Mirage's Avatar
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    Mithras having a constant +25% movement speed (assuming 5 possible upgrades), are you insane? Even 10% would be terribly imbalanced. Yes, I am a mithra.

    If race dependent merits were to exist, I would rather every race would get the same merits, but some races would need less exp to max out certain stats (and vice versa), with humes having no bonuses or penalties to any of them.

    Of course, these differences would only actually be worth mentioning if the new merit categories required retarded amounts of exp per upgrade. Like like 50k Ultralimitpoints for each ultrameritpoint as the baseline, with like galkas only needing 2 ultramerit points to increase the HP bonus to the first level, while tarus needed 4.

    Honestly though? I think the races are different enough as it is, we don't need to elaborate even more on that. If anything, I would just want more amusing, neat, and cool race dependent stuff that didn't really make a difference in serious endgame content. Like mithras dealing slashing damage instead of blunt when fighting without a weapon .
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    Last edited by Mirage; 10-06-2011 at 03:41 AM.

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    @.@ The 5% increase is a lot exaggerated (on my part...5% total sounds a bit better) but race specific merits in my mind should race specific. anything stats wise doesn't fit into race specific? esp since we technically already have a form of improving it....

    Some cute quirky things each race can do would fit in more...(not to mention some races have abilities most people know nothing about.... Can you believe some members in my LS didn't know mithras can eat raw fish... and galkas raw meat.... never mind the hidden bonuses some foods provide depending on your race)

    While on the subject of race specific things... we could always pull for RSE3 that way i can count the number of people having a heart attack due to me wearing gimped armor
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRLied View Post
    @.@ The 5% increase is a lot exaggerated (on my part...5% total sounds a bit better) but race specific merits in my mind should race specific. anything stats wise doesn't fit into race specific? esp since we technically already have a form of improving it....
    Any amount of extra movement speed dependent on race is bad. Period. Movement speed is a buff on par with Haste in terms of power, which is why the pieces that sport it are either conditional, or generally hard to get, especially for certain jobs.

    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRLied View Post
    While on the subject of race specific things... we could always pull for RSE3 that way i can count the number of people having a heart attack due to me wearing gimped armor
    In general, your last post had a bunch of ideas that were... erm, not very good. But this is a great idea. Another tier of RSE gear would be nice, especially if just focused on massive stat boosts without downsides like the occasionally seen RSE gloves in Abyssea (I think I've heard them called NPC gloves on occasion).

    I definitely would like to see RSE3, it is, with the possible exception of the original idea of the thread, the best idea in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramaru View Post
    I'll concur with the OP and agree that, if racial merits were implemented, it'd be best if they shored up a race's weaknesses rather then their strengths, because it would make the gap between races even larger rather then smaller, and could otherwise cause some severe imbalance issues. Not to mention stuff you get in other MMOs and sometimes in XI, where playing the 'wrong' race for your job means no invites to anything..

    If such a thing were done, it'd actually be a unique thing for Humes for once, since they're pretty much even at everything, but would be dealing with the same cap limits as everyone else.. hmm.. that could be why they haven't done it..
    i'm not sure about other players but i started as galka 7 years ago because i liked the Vit & HP bonus and if SE going to add ANY race bonus merits i would like to increase HP&VIT more thats the reason why i wanted to play Galka just a example from my side as Galka
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    Instead of race specific merits, why not change the current stat merits to cap at different levels for different races?
    So galka could have a HP/MP split of +20/+100, while tarus have +100/+20, etc.
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    Covering racial short comings instead of strengthening racial advantages... Not sure how to take that one. People already discriminate against other races just on appearance... Except for mithra and humes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Symbiote View Post
    I would rather see the opposite in terms of stats.

    Galka getting more HP/STR, Taru getting more MP/INT, Mithra getting more AGI/DEX, Elvaan getting more MND.

    I would like to see more incentive for people to play the race of their desired job. I am a Mithra COR and I can never get enough AGI.
    honestly id love this, because the racial differences are not nearly as profound as they could be. it wouldnt bar races from certian jobs, just the player base would probably lean towards Elvaan DD > Taru Mage > Mithra NIN/THF/COR/RNG/MNK > Galka Paladin, which the dev needs to understand, that it wouldnt unbalance the game, it would just make racial benefits more profound.
    i strongly believe that everyone should have a few racial specific traits, and 2-3 racialy specific job abilities.

    Examples

    Elvaan

    Lions Crest
    JA
    10 Second Duration
    3 Minute recast
    Increases FTP by 0.1

    Stalwart Lion
    JT
    Increases your resistance to Terror

    Tarutaru

    Mana Bolster
    JA
    60 second duration or one cast
    3 Minute Recast
    Increases the effectiveness of your next spell by 5%

    Tranquil Mind
    JT
    reduces spell intteruption rate by 10%

    Mithra

    Instinct
    JA
    60 second duration
    5 Minute Recast
    Increases Evasion by 20

    Leader of the pack
    JT
    Increases damage dealt by pets by 5%

    Deft blows
    JT
    Increases Critical Hit damage by 5%

    Galka

    Iron Hide
    JA
    60 Second Duration
    5 Minute Recast
    Increases Defense by 50%, depletes 10% every 15 seconds

    Lore Of the tale Keeper
    Job Trait
    Increases Defensive skill activation rate by 5%

    Hume

    Inspiration
    JA
    30 Second Duration
    3 Minute recast
    Increases All Allies, within 10distance, Job ability Haste by 10


    Comradarie
    Job Trait
    Increases All stats by 5% When in a party of 2 or more people


    just some "meh" ideas to give us some more racial definition....
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    I'd love racial specific merits....tarus should get merits to hover, infinite hp/mp, and the ability to mentally dominate any non-taru they desire, because Tarus are just that awesome
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    Racial specific merits are a great idea.

    Rather than shoring up racial shortcomings (or strengthening racial advantages), how about giving each race something new (as mentioned by an earlier poster).

    Maybe all Galka can merit Great Sword 5/5 (in addition to any job based merits)... just a random example.
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