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    Wow... there's even a debate long lost debate over Tamas vs Rajas ring? Jesus... I didn't mean to incite this shenanigans. My personal preference swung towards the Tamas ring. I have enough subtle blow gear for my DNC as it stands and TP gain is is fast enough not to worry about store TP now*. People say the same about the the useless of additional MP or the other stats on the Tamas ring but whatever.

    *But of course I say a mage can never have to much MP, just like I'm sure some of you will say a melee can never have to much subtle blow. Personal preferences... do they no longer exists without being judged?
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    If waiting 15 minutes is such an issue to you, I hope you never get stuck in public transport or in an elevator. You probably will go insane.

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    Did you really just reference the MP+ on Tamas Ring as a selling point?
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  3. #123
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    No. Put I put MP as a high priority to me when I'm on SMN, my main job. Next to refresh gear and Pet MAB. That's what I use it for. I don't care what others use their rings for.

    At the end of the day, I don't take well to people forcing their ideals of what's great and what's useless down my throat as if the difference is that vast between the two that it'll make or break the way I play the game. Let it stop here if you're going to start saying stuff to me specifically about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    If waiting 15 minutes is such an issue to you, I hope you never get stuck in public transport or in an elevator. You probably will go insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    No. Put I put MP as a high priority to me when I'm on SMN, my main job. Next to refresh gear and Pet MAB. That's what I use it for. I don't care what others use their rings for.

    At the end of the day, I don't take well to people forcing their ideals of what's great and what's useless down my throat as if the difference is that vast between the two that it'll make or break the way I play the game. Let it stop here if you're going to start saying stuff to me specifically about it.

    ........ .... .....

    try an augumented dark ring, if MP is really the only reason you use that ring on SMN dark ring has 20 mp ( this is of course assuming you have an augumented one) and a dark ring can have - pdt, mdt spell intteruption, enemy critical hit rate. just a thought...
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    Last edited by Vortex; 09-10-2011 at 11:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex View Post
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    Oh and you and your stunned silence. I STILL refuse to use SCH as a subjob to WHM. Does that still make me a bad WHM who don't know how to play the job?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    If waiting 15 minutes is such an issue to you, I hope you never get stuck in public transport or in an elevator. You probably will go insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    Oh and you and your stunned silence. I STILL refuse to use SCH as a subjob to WHM. Does that still make me a bad WHM who don't know how to play the job?
    The fact you defend a tamas pretty much showed me all i needed to know and as to why you refuse to sub it, so thank you, i think i got the awnser i was looking for.

    i also edited the post.
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  7. #127
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    Nothing is better than 9 acc if you need acc ; we are left to 5 store TP, 5 str 5 dex. 5 dex equal to 0.5 critical hitrate or 0.25% damage increase since it applie to melee only. 5 str is 2 attack and 1 fstr, so respectively 1% and 0.5% boost to melee dot, so 0.5% and 0.25% increase globally respectively. Store tp+5 for one handed DD is at best 5% increase to WS frequency so +2.5% damage up. So rajas is approximately = 3.5% damage increase girls.

    Oneiros ring is about 4% because it's 2% TA. Trophy items < maths.

    Notices how in the most favorable scenario (+1 fstr some +crit) rajas fails ? On mnk I highly doubt you don't cap fstr with level 90 vere, and seeing the piss poor amount of dex you get, you get zero crit either so yeah, the different is even bigger. Coombine this with the fact that proc system makes it so that you rarely ever tp as soon as you get TP...
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    Last edited by MarkovChain; 09-10-2011 at 11:49 PM.

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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Nothing is better than 9 acc if you need acc ; we are left to 5 store TP, 5 str 5 dex. 5 dex equal to 0.5 critical hitrate or 0.25% damage increase since it applie to melee only. 5 str is 2 attack and 1 fstr, so respectively 1% and 0.5% boost to melee dot, so 0.5% and 0.25% increase globally respectively. Store tp+5 for one handed DD is at best 5% increase to WS frequency so +2.5% damage up. So rajas is approximately = 3.5% damage increase girls.

    Oneiros ring is about 4% because it's 2% TA. Trophy items < maths.

    Notices how in the most favorable scenario (+1 fstr some +crit) rajas fails ? On mnk I highly doubt you don't cap fstr with level 90 vere, and seeing the piss poor amount of dex you get, you get zero crit either so yeah, the different is even bigger. Coombine this with the fact that proc system makes it so that you rarely ever tp as soon as you get TP...

    Oneiros Ring
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    Accuracy+3 Latent Effect: "Triple Attack"+2%
    Lv. 88 WAR MNK THF BST BRD RNG SAM NIN DRG COR PUP DNC


    Latent effect: "Triple Attack+2%"

    Active when MP is greater than 100. Verification Needed

    Is there no limit to your stupidity? the latent is only active ABOVE 100 mp. let me guess, next you will say we should have an "MP set" for the ring. right? do you even think before you post? or do you just dig your hand in a bucket pull out a pile of crap and slap it on your KB and press "post reply"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex View Post
    Oneiros Ring
    [Ring] All Races
    Accuracy+3 Latent Effect: "Triple Attack"+2%
    Lv. 88 WAR MNK THF BST BRD RNG SAM NIN DRG COR PUP DNC


    Latent effect: "Triple Attack+2%"

    Active when MP is greater than 100. Verification Needed

    Is there no limit to your stupidity? the latent is only active ABOVE 100 mp. let me guess, next you will say we should have an "MP set" for the ring. right? do you even think before you post? or do you just dig your hand in a bucket pull out a pile of crap and slap it on your KB and press "post reply"
    Then I'd be one who would benefit on that since I put 12/12 merits on MP. Yet epona's ring is the next option for those that do not. Also Heed Ring for those who want ACC, EVA, and subtle blow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    If waiting 15 minutes is such an issue to you, I hope you never get stuck in public transport or in an elevator. You probably will go insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    Then I'd be one who would benefit on that since I put 12/12 merits on MP. Yet epona's ring is the next option for those that do not. Also Heed Ring for those who want ACC, EVA, and subtle blow.
    You are definatly full of surprises. Just when i think you have told me everything, you keep bringing me gold.
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