Suggestions(Feedback) for Relic(Weapon) and Mythic Improvement!

[Rearden]

Mainly just so it gets read, potentially, and not forgotten.

[VoiceMemo]

For those of you who don't read bard forums, SE has stated that Massacre elegy WILL be added, I quote Camate, "We have plans to. However, when considering the stats, we are planning to make it so this isn’t a song that can be used by just anyone."

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...-Job-Manifesto

Whether or not this will be Gjallarhorn only song is a topic of discussion, I for one would welcome it(albeit biased), since I do have Gjallarhorn.

And for those of you bards who don't have Gjallarhorn, I posted info about it in a dynamis post(linking rather than posting wall of text again). In my opinion ALL relics are obtainable by anyone now with dynamis adjustments(even though I DON'T really like them) as long as such person is willing to put in the time and effort.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ustments/page6

[DebbieGibson]

If massacre elegy is only on ghorn I will have to get a ghorn for brd mule.

[Seriha]

While most have been focusing on statistical improvements, I still feel like methods of acquisition need some tweaks. Both Relics and Mythics are still heavy gil and/or time investments, of which such sentiment fuels the desire for higher stats.

[Atomic_Skull]

First of all dispose of the hidden +25% relic WS damage multiplier on lvl 90 relics. This was a ghetto way to try to fix relics and should be removed.

Make the following changes to Relic weapons:

Number of hits in relic WS now = number of hits in the animation of the WS (currently relic WS are 1 hit) Generally speaking the 1H relics have 4 hit animations and the 2H relics have 2 hit animations, but are much higher DMG weapons so it evens out.

All relics WS become TP=chance of critical hit with 50% base chance of a critical at 100% TP. Combined with the hit # change this would effectively mean that all 2H relic WS would be Ukko's Fury +1 and all 1H relic WS would be Victory Smite +1.

All relic WS have cRatio bonus like Y/G/K

Increase duration and potency of aftermath.

Increase double/triple damage proc rate from 5% to 20%

Optionally: review added effect on relic weapons and change the useless/detrimental ones like Poison to something useful.

[Atomic_Skull]

(Note These would not become job specific, Simply determine the buffs you would get)

THF-Path
Mandau:
Triple Attack +2% (95)
Triple Attack +3% (99)

RDM-Path
Mandau:
Spell Enhancement Damage +8 (95)
Spell enhancement Damage +12 (99)

something that is special to the Job that can equip it, A small boost varying in power based on a specific path you take it, and so on. However, This also might fall in line more with Mythic buffs as well!

Final Thought: Add yours!
So don't be shy to make some suggestions, You can also come in and disagree with mine, I know its impossible to stop a topic from going off discussion, But i ask you nicely to refrain from childish bickering.

Feel free to voice your opinion still, Just have to ask !

They don't need to add paths they could just add job specific stats like the Shigeto bow.

I still think my fixes would be better as they are system related changes that don't require any change to the items.

[Winrie]

I've always had a firm belief in time spent should equal higher profit, since the release of empys that has seemed to be defied and went backwards. Honestly I'd like to see mythics be the top caliber weapons considering the difficulty and time it takes, relics would be second up and lastly empys. Mythics should gain special job specific aftermaths like perhaps smn mythic at 99 aftermath could grant a 50% mp cost reduction for bloodpacts based on what tp you ws at, or burtgang could grant a heavy potent sentinel effect with an enmity up effect per action you do in the aftermath timeframe. Other suggestion would be to allow the 99 weapons to grant you access to a unique ability or spell only obtainable via the relic or mythic at 99. Yes I mean like ghorn having massacre elegy and say like nirvana having a special bloodpact for the avatars, Amano maybe granting access to something like mediate 2 or an advanced hasso. Giving apoc a ja that forces any ws to crit. Idk silly ideas but I think they would fix relic and mythic issues and make the content worth pursuing again. But yeah don't forget to give them some attributes or maybe some nice attack stats on the weapon. Lol jus my ideas

[Creelo]

Just wanna say that Gjallarhorn will probably NOT be getting "All Songs +5" at the lvl 99 Cap since it doesn't follow the path that it's currently been on. I would be truly shocked if it did anyways.

This next update will probably only see an additional Skill boost (+5 Wind/Singing each) and an additional Chr+2 (For Chr+10 Total).

And the lvl 99 upgrade would basically just make "All Songs +3" into "All Songs +4." This is similar to the lvl 85 Gjallarhorn upgrade to 90 (Only upgrade then was to "All Songs +3").

This is why Gjallarhorn's current relic path is so dull, it hardly offers anything more than extra space. Massacre Elegy would be quite welcomed.

[Tigeriris]

Yes, I for one hope they add Massacre Elegy to Ghorn only. Even if Massacre Elegy is/could be broken, its well worth the 200M or so gil.

As for Apocalypse I think SE should make Catastrophe's Haste not Equipment haste and allow it to surpass the haste cap, just as they have for Aegis and Burtgang.

[Chriscoffey]

Yes, I for one hope they add Massacre Elegy to Ghorn only. Even if Massacre Elegy is/could be broken, its well worth the 200M or so gil.

As for Apocalypse I think SE should make Catastrophe's Haste not Equipment haste and allow it to surpass the haste cap, just as they have for Aegis and Burtgang.

I wish that would be the case considering what you stated above. It would put dark back up as great spike damage job like they were before. The idea about it being magic haste is somewhat viable but with brd and dancer combos it is capped on most DD jobs so having its own category would make it a specialty to the job itself.