Subjob for melee SMN?

[Soranika]

Thanks for all the timely responses. >.> Totally wasn't expecting so many so fast.

I'd LOVE to get my hands on nirvana but unless I luck out on the next Mog Bonnaza, I'll think about more realistic weapons. Survivability over damage output is a concern to me (which is why I never used -HP +MP gear) but I do tend to use Carbuncle and my NPC a lot with other avatars being situational or for specifically skill chaining or elemental weakness.

And side notes for Economizer and Korpg
-Yush, I totally hate not being able to skill chain with the more powerful blood pacts. SE's sense of humor =\ /stagger
-Melee SMN... in a party? People on my server aren't that generous towards SMN. Most seem to still think with a pre-75 cap mentality about the job. =\

[Economizer]

Melee SMN... in a party? People on my server aren't that generous towards SMN. Most seem to still think with a pre-75 cap mentality about the job. =\

Since most of the exp these days is in burn style alliances, yeah, at least in exp parties. I've only gotten kicked out of one party for meleeing as a White Mage in Abyssea (although I rarely party, and most of the time if I do, it is to be lazy in some sort of trial and I don't melee) but I did so after watching another White Mage do so, and the guy who kicked me invited his friend and started badmouthing me in the party (I had other friends in the party). They started to die repeatedly despite doing fine when I was in the party (and replacing me and a BST they also booted with two healers). I proceeded to sit there for ten minutes laughing at them and my friend in the party walked out and left without warning (he was some DD job). The take away here is that only incredibly, horrifically bad players will tell you that you can't melee if you are doing your job already in an exp party.

[Soranika]

Since most of the exp these days is in burn style alliances, yeah, at least in exp parties. I've only gotten kicked out of one party for meleeing as a White Mage in Abyssea (although I rarely party, and most of the time if I do, it is to be lazy in some sort of trial and I don't melee) but I did so after watching another White Mage do so, and the guy who kicked me invited his friend and started badmouthing me in the party (I had other friends in the party). They started to die repeatedly despite doing fine when I was in the party (and replacing me and a BST they also booted with two healers). I proceeded to sit there for ten minutes laughing at them and my friend in the party walked out and left without warning (he was some DD job). The take away here is that only incredibly, horrifically bad players will tell you that you can't melee if you are doing your job already in an exp party.

Oh no no, I've never had an issue in exp/crour parties when it came to meleeing on SMN. It's outside Abyssea where I want to focus again that I have an issue at.
And LOL, that's a bit cruel, don't you think?

[Economizer]

And LOL, that's a bit cruel, don't you think?

They never asked me to stop, they never booted the other WHM who was meleeing, and we were fighting frogs. There was absolutely no reason to kick me aside from getting friends of the party leader into the party. Who couldn't do their job right.

Cruel would have been to farm a party on top of them using 2/3 of their alliance and a third party of meleeing White Mages.

[Dallas]

There was a few days in between completing yantok and full understanding of blue pyxides when some idiot wanted me to help 2x WHM heal an alliance that wasn't taking damage. I walked, and they ran out of time.

The herd is thinned on its own. Let it happen.

[Razushu]

There was a few days in between completing yantok and full understanding of blue pyxides when some idiot wanted me to help 2x WHM heal an alliance that wasn't taking damage. I walked, and they ran out of time.

The herd is thinned on its own. Let it happen.

Wth kind of alliance was completely reliant on a meleeSMN for... well anything?

[Soranika]

Wth kind of alliance was completely reliant on a meleeSMN for... well anything?

A smn with the right atma and in a weak, under leveled/gimped party like they usually tend to be.