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    Player Ziyyigo-Tipyigo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kriegsgott View Post
    I would like to add some Ideas!
    i wish Campaign could be like Reive

    Join the Battle get Auto Tagged do your Job win and get Reward Items

    Question dear DEV-Team
    Can we have Auto Allied Tags if we get close to the Enemy Fortification 50 Yalms?!
    I don't think it's possible.

    Colonization and Lair Reives are designed to be a local, tightly focused affair, with everything happening entirely within one grid square. In contrast, campaign battle (and bastion) were intended to sprawl throughout the entire zone. They tell you where an attacking force is coming from for the same reason they tell you when there's an advance on Al Zahbi: they want you to go out and intercept the attackers well before they become a threat to the fortification/pulse martello.

    They can't do auto-tagging (granting and removing) based on distance because a player could be halfway across the map and still be contributing meaningfully to a battle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo View Post
    I don't think it's possible.

    Colonization and Lair Reives are designed to be a local, tightly focused affair, with everything happening entirely within one grid square. In contrast, campaign battle (and bastion) were intended to sprawl throughout the entire zone. They tell you where an attacking force is coming from for the same reason they tell you when there's an advance on Al Zahbi: they want you to go out and intercept the attackers well before they become a threat to the fortification/pulse martello.

    They can't do auto-tagging (granting and removing) based on distance because a player could be halfway across the map and still be contributing meaningfully to a battle.
    They can add the tag automatically when you get close though and make it removable by the player instead of by the NPC. Currently, Said player who is half way across the zone still has to come to the battle area to get tags anyways. So no change other than a little convenience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    They can add the tag automatically when you get close though and make it removable by the player instead of by the NPC. Currently, Said player who is half way across the zone still has to come to the battle area to get tags anyways. So no change other than a little convenience.
    Exactly !

    @Rubeus
    Thank you very much i hope the JP-Translate is worth the effort /cheer
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    More Campaign OPs 1 each day isn enough!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kriegsgott View Post
    6.) "Aggro" why do Monster aggro/link to Campaign Only Monster? & Xarcabard S i see there a great problem with the NM "Greater Amphiptere" he wiping a lot people who only want to do campaign its like a hidden Freelancer for the Beastmen force
    I agree so strongly with this one. Fuck that Amphiptere. Seriously.
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    I wanna unlock the npc Weapon Skills. some of them are really useful, at least from watching npcs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puck View Post
    I agree so strongly with this one. Fuck that Amphiptere. Seriously.
    tbh this isn a problem anymore with lvl 99 the should spend the limited time in some major problems in WoTG Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Archades View Post
    I wanna unlock the npc Weapon Skills. some of them are really useful, at least from watching npcs.
    yes! this would be awesome too of course!
    Glory Slash the Bastok sword used by Bartholomeow?! does awesome AoE thunder based dmg + Stun i would like to use it on a higher DMG based Sword but i have to keep the Lex Talionis DMG:39....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puck View Post
    I agree so strongly with this one. Fuck that Amphiptere. Seriously.
    Quote Originally Posted by Archades View Post
    I wanna unlock the npc Weapon Skills. some of them are really useful, at least from watching npcs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kriegsgott View Post
    tbh this isn a problem anymore with lvl 99 the should spend the limited time in some major problems in WoTG Campaign


    yes! this would be awesome too of course!
    Glory Slash the Bastok sword used by Bartholomeow?! does awesome AoE thunder based dmg + Stun i would like to use it on a higher DMG based Sword but i have to keep the Lex Talionis DMG:39....
    Lex Talionis need a Trial til lvl 99
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djbeat View Post
    Lex Talionis need a Trial til lvl 99
    nice idea but i dont think this will happen but the should remove the "Glory Slash" in campaign only if you reach the lvl 99 Trial
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    Another problem is that you can never seem to catch enemy messengers who are delivering supplies to a beastmen fortified area. My suggestion is more people go through and "Like" some more and maybe tag a developer to provoke a response, or link this thread to Camate/Okipuit/Whoever. Maybe link it into the Japanese forum? They seem to get back to them quicker, less translating to do. Also I like pretty much all the suggestions for campaign; I remember a time when the enemies were so weak and the NPCs so strong we owned everything, and I also remember a time when we didn't even own Bastok Markets anymore and it took 100+ people to try to defend it. While I -NEVER- want to see that happen again, it doesn't seem like it'd be much programming to make the NPCs stronger again or the enemies weaker. I'd rather be able to do fiat lux and be lucky to get 1 or 2 hits in before the battle ends because the NPCs killed everything, like in the old days.

    Also, my suggestion is that we're given fireworks or something similar that would 'distract' the beastmen supply runners and slow them down to be able to catch and fight them. I think if people were able to get XP/AN and prevent beastmen-controlled areas from receiving fortification buffs, even a small number of dedicated players would be able to (slowly) regain control of a zone for their nation. This obviously seems possible, as Reives and Colonization have received very similar updates recently as to the amount of colonization obtained per reive and the decay at which it becomes wild again.

    The point is, Campaign USED to be all allied-controlled, and since we have now beaten WotG and even voidwatch, and "Historically" we DID win the crystal war, it only makes sense that the allied nations should be in a much better position.

    Maybe add a system where if you've beaten WotG and all 3 nations quest-lines you get a special Ammo slot item similar to Glory Crown that would automatically make a certain type of Ops go to 5 stars after 1 success? So for example we could call it Atomos' Chronograph, it would look like a book (like the SCH ammo) and it's effect would be "once per day, the first OP of that day done in a given category will automatically raise all of that category to 5 stars." So even if you did Aegis Scream I, I-V would all be capped for that day.

    Or maybe add a usable item that would be a "Theatre of War", a map-like looking item that when used would add a group of NPCs to the area you're currently using tags in; it could be a temp item and it would summon something like Bastok's 4th Division (Who don't have NPCs, just us). These new NPCs would all be lvl 99 so not as easily defeatable, and similar to Primeval Brew you really can't obtain it until you've beaten WotG. This would give us an outlet for all those AN we have sitting around.

    anyway that's my 2 cents.
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