PLEASE Tell me "Grounds of Valor" is what I think it is!! (FFXI Gyms of Vana'diel??)

[kingfury]

Yeah, I'll say once again I've already stated I don't need any more credit for the Gyms post, so no I'm not begging for such. The post above is for everyone that post a suggestion here on the boards. No such information has been posted by the Community Reps to date (unless I've just missed it) as to how exactly our feedback is utilized when the Dev Team plans new content. I'm asking in a general tone for all suggestions posted here not just mine.

Looking back over the comments of this thread is what sparked the question to the Comm. Reps to clarify the process a bit more. If you've posted an idea on these boards at all then the question for such clarity involves you as well. All we have to go on at the present is assumptions that maybe our ideas did help the Devs while planning new content. Comments like this prove as much:

-"For all you know this skill up buff could have been a last minute adjustment to something already on the board for the update. To my knowledge, the change to HNMs was a quick change that was included in the updates that came about from an outcry on the forums for a change to their spawns."

Since you're asking in an tone of either or, I'm cool with validating the 1st part of your post as to the fact that I'm not asking for such a thing as a means to get any more recognition for my post. I'm asking for a clearer picture of the process that is the collection of our feedback to be overviewed by the Devs during new content planning. I have no plans to stop posting ideas to the Devs and I'm sure the same runs true for other players that are passionate about this game, so requesting a clearer picture of how our ideas are processed is a natural question.

I've had to develop a 0 tolerance mentality for the crap feeders on these boards that assume 50 million things about me and twist the things I say like it's a sport, so I can't invest any more energy into folks that read too far into a simple question for clarity.

[Xilk]

if it is, and if i were you, i would demand a $$$ lol

this kind of mentality happens alot, thats why there are so many lawyers....

and it not appropriate. The work in designing it is where the reward goes. if you want any career in an industry, this is NOT the attitude to have.

if you had players w/ suggestions getting lawyers and demanding money for ideas, you would see SE responses to players freeze up in a heartbeat. This is exactly why companies cannot afford to communicate w/ public.

[kingfury]

this kind of mentality happens alot, thats why there are so many lawyers....
and it not appropriate. The work in designing it is where the reward goes. if you want any career in an industry, this is NOT the attitude to have.
if you had players w/ suggestions getting lawyers and demanding money for ideas, you would see SE responses to players freeze up in a heartbeat. This is exactly why companies cannot afford to communicate w/ public.

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/Agreed

Folks that expect such a thing should realize what a "suggestion board" is for and the concepts that are involved when dealing with a major company like SE and a giant game franchise like FF.

I think it would a great help to post a clear definitive outline of such guidelines for everyone that post here along with what I'm asking for (the clear map of how ideas are processed). Even if the only thing awarded was the knowledge that "player feedback" helped the Devs to formulate or help finish off certain aspects of planned content, players that are passionate about this game should feel more than compensated. I absolutely would if anything I've posted helped directly or indirectly through the post within the threads I've posted. No direct "individual recognition" would be required in the slightest, only the fact that "player feedback" was in fact utilized by the Dev Team on game content.

[HFX7686]

Kingfury, it's a coincidence that some things in Grounds of Valour are like what you suggested. Nothing more. Please stop.

[kingfury]

Kingfury, it's a coincidence that some things in Grounds of Valour are like what you suggested. Nothing more. Please stop.

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How about you take a second before you post next time and read the previous post so you don't make a troll out've yourself.

Your understanding resides there.

[BorkBorkBork]

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How about you take a second before you post next time and read the previous post so you don't make a troll out've yourself.

Your understanding resides there.

Your back peddling again. Just let it go and be happy with the fact SE responded to a novel idea you had.

SE and any company would never post a road map on how customer feedback is processed and implemented. The reason is because every idea that wasn't used would have people crying about why their idea wasn't used and want a explanation as to why not. Again you had a good idea, but your expecting too much between business and customer communication.

[Vold]

It's pretty clear that the developers implement things requested by the players "all the time" just compare the game as it is today to 2006. Every perk we enjoy today is the result of years of whining to them, and our feedback is definitely being considered and used in regards to Abyssea.

If the reps haven't responded by now after over a month since this thread was created, they probably won't for some reason or another. But does it really matter so much that you get acknowledged for your ideas? They already said they would pass the idea along to devs. They took the time to respond and tell you that. Why would they not do it? What more do you need? I mean it only really entails something along these lines:

Rep: Sup boss

Boss: Sup homes

Rep: I got some goods to pass on to you. This player came up with this idea and I thought it was worthy enough to let you know.

Boss: True. true. let's hear it.

Rep: etc etc etc

Boss: Ah I see. Cool, it's something we can do technically. I'll put it on the table to work on whenever.

You got partly what you wanted implemented in the game whether by your doing or not. Surely that is enough. I suggest you just let it go before this backfires anymore on you and you get discouraged from making realistic suggestions to the dev team due to fear of trolls. Most of what I see here is utter crap. Good suggestions are few and far between(really only because the vast majority of suggestions come from horde and every single one of them for the most part are complete crap that may or may not be serious attempts at trolling)

For what it's worth I'd say chances are high that it is your idea that got us the perks for GoV but I'm sure GoV itself was already in the development stages. It was likely a compromise they chose to make. All that matters is it's in game now to an extent. It doesn't matter in the least how it came to be...unless you're looking for credit. Be happy and take advantage of it.

[HFX7686]

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How about you take a second before you post next time and read the previous post so you don't make a troll out've yourself.

Your understanding resides there.

Dude, I thought (and still think) that your idea was a pretty good idea. I fully support your idea. I hope SE implements more parts of it. My issue is, however, your constant bumping of this thread looking for validation. Haven't you noticed that at the beginning of this thread people were supportive but further along, the more you post about being humble and looking for validation, your fellow FF11 community members are becoming more and more irritated with you? Please, we accept that you have a good idea and support it but stop with the 'me-so-humble' act. It's getting tiring and bunging up a really good thread with a really good idea.

[kingfury]

@HFX7686:
If by "Bumping" the thread, you mean having to respond to crap post such as yours and the other folks that want to make me out to be something I'm not, then you have yourself to blame. If someone is trying to make you out to be something negative, it's your prerogative to address it. I choose to at least try to correct such ill-minded attempts since I can't get why folks like yourself feel it necessary to try and shoot others down for no reason. I respond to people that respond to my threads, both constructive and non-constructive. Unfortunately, like in this case, it's often a response to a "crabs in the bucket" mentality.

What department of the Dev Team do you work in to feel validated to even post such a thing? There's just no reason for this kind of thing.

Posted by @HFX7686:Kingfury, it's a coincidence that some things in Grounds of Valour are like what you suggested. Nothing more. Please stop.

I suggested that you go back and READ the thread to find out what I'm asking for. This thread was created when the Dev Team released the name of the new system. I'll I knew at that time was that it was called "Grounds of Valor", nothing else. At best, I was asking for a "Hint" as to what the new system was composed of in a hoping tone that in fact it was something similar to what I was proposing. If you proposed an idea to make "flying chocobos", and saw in the upcoming road map a new system called "Birds of Flight", would you be excited about the possibilities of the new system? The question is rhetorical of course.

You seriously read this post above "Post 101" and honestly can still process my words as the negative dribble you've posted? I'll leave it at this and continue moving forward as always since no matter what I say at this point to clear up whatever confusion you have blocking your ability to understand my viewpoint will change your made up mind. Closed-minded people have to choose to be that way, and will never change unless they choose to stop that mind set. I haven't changed since my 1st day of posting on these threads other than being immensely disappointed in the way people try to tear others down.

[Kimble]

Well, since no one has gotten back to you already, its safe to say that Grounds of Valor had nothing to do with your Gyms idea so its best to just leave it alone.

Also, no company is going to be so transparent is to outline how customer feed back affects their development for reasons that another poster already pointed out.

Really, thread should be locked at this point as it serves no purpose.