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  1. #41
    Player Auriga's Avatar
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    If only SE would take the players requests seriously.


    Step 1 - surf the forums, start making a list of whats going on/whats being said

    Step 2 - take the above to a meeting with the dev team & discuss a logical/reasonable order
    of things that can be done with a "how fast" factor time line.

    Step 3 - post the results of the meeting on THIS forum an get to work on it.

    Step 4 = Progress!

    HOWEVER!!
    The reality of whats been going on.. from my pov.

    Step 1 - Data from a team responsible for putting together a list for the
    dev team arrives in the meeting around 9am or w/e.

    Step 2 - Everyone talks about their day/week thus far for 15-45min cuz it's "cool".

    Step 3 - Finally the meeting gets to the point of discussing "work" which involves discussion
    about things that'd get people promoted or a raise potentially.. thus new content gets talked
    about an maybe a few minor player requested changes.. (because someone at this meeting
    actually took the time to personally surf this forum! or so let us pray..) some talk about things
    that're broken to be fixed that're already on schedule.

    Step 4 - The meeting by this point realizes it's spent too much time doing "stuff" an disbands
    to return to their desks to resume returning personal calls (mostly) an job required calls. Then
    filing their assortment of required paperwork in order to keep their jobs before they go home.

    Step 5 - Above steps = repeated on a daily basis while no one gives a crap about what we've
    been talking about for YEARS.

    The reality of things is scarier than the things we dream of.. such is life.. such are the
    elitest trolls who'll flame me to death for even suggesting this.

    This is where I like to dream of the monty python scene where they talk about burning more
    witches an instead of burning "witches" I'd like to insert "elitests & certain types of trolls"
    you know who you are -.-
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    Last edited by Auriga; 05-12-2011 at 06:06 AM.
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    Prof. Farnsworth:
    That proves nothing! And furthermore, you'd think I could remember a thing like that!
    Plus, who are you anyway?

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    Really some people. They added the high level mobs to dungeons, you know those places you level snyced past when that came out. Before abyssea no one with half a brain used them anymore to exp. Long repops better spots in other zones. Not just 37 birds but you could stay out of the dungeons. Dungeons were nightmeres if you had more then one party show up. Hey no one remembers any way, old ffxi was perfect the way it was huh.
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  3. #43
    Player Auriga's Avatar
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    Attitude of the world = who knows who cares.. w/e..

    Such a sad state of things.. give me a hour a day to fix this game.. I would.
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    Prof. Farnsworth:
    That proves nothing! And furthermore, you'd think I could remember a thing like that!
    Plus, who are you anyway?

  4. #44
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    And people call me arrogant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenmore View Post
    Hey noe(sp?) remembers any way old ffxi was perfect the way it was huh.
    I had no complaints about "old school" FFXI, and I didn't touch Salvage, Einherjar or most TAoU stuff. I was basically a casual player that did CoP, Sky, ZM, Dynamis and Nyzul Isle every once in awhile. I had no complaints about how the game was Pre-Abyssea.

    Of course it wasn't "Perfect" (whatever that word means anyways), but it was damn near close to being one of the most innovative MMO's ever created. Every MMO has it's issues, and if SE's answer to those issues was to add Abyssea, it's kind of like shoving everything in the closet, saying that you cleaned up the mess.

    Eventually the doors of that closet are going to burst open, and they won't be able to hide it anymore. We can see this already happening with their answer to endgame 75 equipment. Crappy augments that aren't worthwhile for anyone with maxed out Abyssea Gear, is pretty much taking that mess and creating a new closet for that mess to go into.
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    "Old School" and "ToAU content" shouldn't be allowed in the same post. Christ. You have absolutely no idea what people are talking about if that's what you think about when people talk about "Old FFXI".

    Don't even bring Sky up either. It's been adjusted a half dozen times since "Old FFXI", and it's a ton easier now.

    Hint for the post-2007 players: True Old School FFXI was a lot like what you guys keep asking for. And it was ass. The grass only looks greener for those who didn't have to live through it.
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    The amount of testing that goes into every time they change something is huge. Cause one little thing that they might not have even touch could go wrong. Like when SA worked from the front of the mob, nothing in that update had anything to do SA so they didn't test it. Now you could why didn't they. To test every part of the game you did not change adds cost and delay and no way you could test everything and still get it out the door in time for a update. While this is not always the case, 2 hander update comes to mind were players and mobs got the same buff then a couple of weeks later they tuned it down.

    They can't add every idea that pops up on here.Some are won't work cause the game code wouldn't let it.Others make no sense at all or are really low on cost to reward like the wyvern color change. If that were put in over giving new content most of the player base would have a cow. The devs are working in the limits of what they have. I wouldn't want to be in thier spot, working around PS2 limits, higher ups demanding cost savings, moving team members FF14. Now if you want to be mad at some one for not getting new zones, more content be mad at the CEO and higher up of SE not the devs least the dev team is trying.

    One more thing to keep in mind not every player even reads these threads let alone reply to them. Most that do come here is to check out the dev tracker or update notes.
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    Aku you never merited on weapons in sky or stats have you. That was old school FF11. That what people used to merit on before ToAU came out or fighting goblins in Bibiki bay. Back then 10k hour was getting great exp. Back then if you didn't have sky you missed out on most of the exp parties.
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    "May 2011 - Additional Version Updates (05/11/2011)..."

    Kazemusha QQ more please! No, i really mean that! they listen to you.
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    That additional version update will fix most of the problems with the current one, I think. Looking forwards to it.
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