Why Do I Have To Compete With Other Players For Notorious Monters?

[svengalis]

Where in my post did I say I didn't want to okay with other people? I have no problem with teaming with other players but abysses has changed the mentality of all players of this game people wont help if they don't feel like they are not getting anything out of it.

[Kindra]

Well this is an MMO. I hate to say it but team work is needed in most cases. I do not know what jobs you have and so forth and I understand that getting a free pop NM isn't that easy when its over camped. Se has said that the update will add the seals and such to NM's in the other abyssea area's. This should take away some of the competition. And some of the lower NM's that will be droping the seals and such will be easier to solo. Other then that all I can tell you is to gather some friends and have some fun or team up with others that are doing the NM you need.

[Zyeriis]

Multi-posting to bump this thread and/or your post count on top of a dumb idea that equates to: "I don't want to deal with other people" certainly isn't helping your self-proclaimed stance of "I really don't want to flame but you got to be an idiot..."

Nowhere has "people wont help if they don't feel like they are not getting anything out it" ever been anything other than that, pre or post abyssea. That has always been the case. It's just that now, there are ways for people to get things they need while other people get what they need simultaneously. Getting through missions wasn't hard before abyssea because people would help you even though they got nothing out of it right? Yeah, everyone helped everyone do everything.

[Greatguardian]

Where in my post did I say I didn't want to okay with other people? I have no problem with teaming with other players but abysses has changed the mentality of all players of this game people wont help if they don't feel like they are not getting anything out of it.

This is not something new. At all. The people are not different. The circumstances are not different. This is real life when you're dealing with jerks. And yes, a lot of people are jerks. Make real/better friends and you'll be a lot more successful.

[Sama]

This is the only way SE make you wait and wait and wait and wait.

All of you want to get something or kill something, SE is not giving you. What can you do?

Just go to Sobek in weekend how many PC you see there? 60? 70? all wants to pop a KI. Welcome to FFXI buddy!

[KEV1N]

Did you even read my post?

Yes but all I saw was "WAAAAAAAAAH WHY R DERE UVER PPL IN DIS MMO!!1SHIFT+1ELEVEN"

I think you'd be much happier playing a single player RPG. That way there are no nasty people camping your monster and taking away your shiny.

inb4reportedanddeleted

[Starcade]

ITT: Things that mattered last decade.

You're a bad liar.

[noodles355]

Did you even read my post? I want the same items as them. If I am in a party with 6 other people farmer seals neither party is going to want to team up.

Actually I team up with other parties farming the same seals as my group all the time.
We help each other proc weaknesses and kill which speeds up the whole process. One group can farm time whilst the other kills. If one group has finished needing X seal, they can give it to your group and vice-versa. You just say that whichever group pops gets the drops.

There really isn't any reason not to.

[noodles355]

Where in my post did I say I didn't want to okay with other people? I have no problem with teaming with other players but abysses has changed the mentality of all players of this game people wont help if they don't feel like they are not getting anything out of it.

If anything abyssea has made people MORE willing to team up for the simple reason that you help each other get lights and TEs. I've teamed up with random people in abyssea before, in different areas in the zone to make getting lights and TEs easier whilst I farm. 90% of the time, people are happy to do this. 90% of the time when I'm farming a seal NM and another group comes, they (alliance space permitting) are happy to team up for the same reasons I stated above: We help each other proc !! faster, and we farm eachother time.

Abyssea, and Trials of the Magian have made people a lot more willing to team up. I don't know why you're so against it.

[noodles355]

You're a bad liar.

No, I'm sorry. Botting was only ever big in kings and other hnms (Arthro for example). Next to no one actively camps kings anymore, Anyone who does is a small group. It's certainly no longer a case of 50 botters, as I quoted in the last post.
The fact you think there's still thousands of botters camping kings and stealing your NMs shows just how ignorant you are about the whole situation and how basically all your anti-botting comments are based purely on old and irrelevant stories.
Don't try and pretend botting is remotely important anymore. The only things that were ever botted were Behe/Faf/Ada NQ/HQs and King Arthro. If it was Kimaira/Cerberus/Tiamat's last 1-3 windows and they hadn't popped, maybe there too. Ground Kings are getting changed to force pop. Khim and Cerb don't drop anything worth botting, and Timmy has such a large pop area that it was always more luck whether he popped in casting range or not anyway. King Arthro is the only one left but concidering every job except Rdm, Pld and Drk can equip Bullwhip or Twilight Belts, which are both very easy to get, and concidering that AV is easy to kill now and most "botting shells" will kill him to sell drops, that one isn't very important either.

Speed and Pos hacking, fishing, synth, skillup, and widescan type programs are still around, and are still troublesome. But Botting Kings and such anymore is pretty irrelevant.