Time to reduce the respawn timers of land kings

[blowfin]

1 hour spawn on the NQ King, it still has the same percentage to drop its Black Belt item, but it has a 100% chance to drop an item to force spawn the King itself?

Not such a bad idea, but 1 hour seems very short. Some sort of tiered system would be nice though. The item to pop the HQ would need to be a very low drop rate if they are going to keep the rarity of the gear anything similar. Something that is going to give everyone a chance to fight the kings will be very nice though.

[Firebert_Lakshmi]

Another thought I had is introduce lower tiers of behemoth, adamantoise, fafnir that only drop their BB items. They would have quicker respawn rates Then up the drop rate on the kings, and leave the 1 and 3 day timers as they are. This would keep the rarity of non BB items the same while allowing more mnks to get their BB.

[Anza]

While we're on the subject of Monk belt quest mobs with ridiculous timers, how about tossing in Morbolger for consideration? It's about time the malboro NM got brought in line with the other two NMs required for Brown Belt.

I don't think Morbolger is unfair, considering it's a 100% drop and an easy solo kill for any high level job. All you have to do is claim it ONCE, and it's not camped that heavily. I know plenty of people who took a whole lot longer to get the Nue item to drop than they did having to camp to claim Morbolger once.

Also, as a long time Brown Belt MNK I am very happy to hear this news.

[Ophannus]

Trade 'Darter Wing' to pop Fafnir at ??? in Aery. Trade Fafnir Scale a low % drop from Faf to pop Nidhogg.

[Octaviane]

Took me 8 months (go figure) to get Morbolger several years ago when it was heavily camped. By comparison, I got Nue Fang in 3 attempts, and Dodo Skin in 2. However, I am pleased to see maybe a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel to MAYBE be able to finish my Black Belt quest..........then I can retire

[vedder]

idk about this update tbh, could be good or could turn bad, not everything needs to be easymode, im a longtime player and as much as i like the casualness of the game now, somethings need very careful thinking before implementation. it'll be interesting to see what they do here. glad im not a mnk still.

[Anza]

You’ll be glad to know that in the next version update, adjustments will be made to land kings (Behemoth, Fafnir, Adamantoise). A new dev. thread will be created in the very near future bringing with it more details, but for now feel free to discuss what you think the dev. has in mind!

OK, maybe this is way out there... but remembering the previous dev comments that they planned to expand the ZNM system:

What about taking several of the famous old NMs with archaic and outdated long timed spawn conditions and putting them into a ZNM-like pop system?

Maybe:

T1: Use Zeni to get key item to pop one of three lower tier NMs, perhaps existing 21-24 hour pops (Roc, Simurgh, Serket). Which drop KIs used to pop:
T2: NQ land kings (Behe/Adamantoise/Fafnir). Which drop KIs used to pop:
T3: HQ land kings (KB/Aspi/Nidhogg). Which drop KIs used to pop:
T4: Wyrms (Tiamat, Vrtra, Jormy). Which each drop a KI, need all three to pop:
T5: Some new big bad NM.

They could certainly adjust mob levels/loot pools too. Add some new drops, etc. And this would make these more interesting for people other than Brown Belt MNKs (like me! hopefully not for too much longer!).

Hopefully if they did make some system like this they wouldn't rely too much on zeni to buy the next tier's pop items. I'd be a little disappointed with a zeni grind/buy fest, but if that aspect was reasonable I'd certainly be happy to get rid of awful spawn timers and make some of this existing content a little more fresh.

[blowfin]

I'd be a little disappointed with a zeni grind/buy fest, but if that aspect was reasonable I'd certainly be happy to get rid of awful spawn timers and make some of this existing content a little more fresh.

I think you hit the nail on the head. A zeni grind is going to be very annoying if it proves to be true. Not that I care about kings too much anymore, but yeah, no thanks. ZNM should remain as an Aht Urghan event IMHO.

[Hayward]

The ZNM route is absolutely the wrong way to go. That system had too many flaws to count, the most glaring being the low amounts of Zeni (really, S-E? Ripping off Capcom's currency, known as Zenny?) received for each picture, even while putting oneself in danger.

Keep it simple, S-E. Either cut the respawn timers to 4~6 hours, or put some young land princes in the area that drop pop items that force spawn the 3 kings with a chance of popping their HQ counterparts. No need for elaborate, out-there pyramid schemes that require new linkshells to even have a chance at getting things done.

[Yinnyth]

I personally think they had the right idea back in the day when they added the black belt items to KS99 battles. Well, the right idea but poorly implemented. Even if the drop rate was 100%, that's still 297 seals for a black belt. Anyways, I'd personally rather see more sources for these items than more frequent pops of the existing HNMs.

Adding them ZNMs (as suggested above) would be one way, but ZNMs also have a fundamental flaw in that the Zeni system ssssssuuuuuuUUUUUUCKS. The idea of taking pictures of monsters makes my face hurt, and making matters worse is the fact that the angle, distance, claim, HP, and type of mob you're taking pictures of plays a role in how much zeni you actually make. The camera and plates are a pain to pick up EVERY time you go taking photos (why isn't there a camera with unlimited uses yet?), there's an imposed time limit on how frequently you can snap a picture, an imposed limit on how many pictures you can take per trip, an imposed limit on how many plates you can turn in every day, AND an imposed limit on how much zeni you can get per plate. I also can not tell you how many times I've gone out and snapped 12 pictures, then come back only to find that the geezer changed his mind and is no longer interested in the same thing.

TL;DR: Don't decrease the respawn timer, add new sources for the drops, but please not ZNMs because the zeni system is retarded (literally, the system holds you back with all its limitations).