Kill the PS2 limitations end of the Dark Ages Era

[Karbuncle]

Sure sounded like sarcasm to me. If not, then you are wrong, because of the statement "'PS2 Limitations' was never used as an excuse by the Dev team to not add something in the past".

No Sarcasm here. Though i can understand your skepticism. I just had to really look at the argument.

You've made it quite clear, with rational argument, that the PS2 has never been, and will never be, a problem when it comes to this game, and the game will likely close before we ever reach a point where any PS2 Limitations would stop or hinder our content.

[rog]

I am not saying the ps2 does not hinder the game. It does. Just not in any meaningful way. Would i kill for >80 inventory space? Hell yes. Unfortunately that is currently impossible, without either dropping the ps2, or major, major rehaul of the ps2 code to save some memory (and even then, would probably only get us a few extra spaces). The auto translate is another obvious example. There are many small things that the ps2 prevents us from having. However, it absolutely does not ever prevent us from getting new content (ie zones, mobs, gear, quests, etc). Ever.

The game will not suddenly having 100x better graphics, or fully optimized code just because SE dropped support for the ps2. In fact, we would get neither of those. Both would take far too much effort, and would not be done. How do i know they would not be done? Because they could be done right now, while still supporting the ps2. But it has not been done. Because it is not worth doing. If ps2 support was dropped, we would have more inventory, more AT phrases, and some other small things the next update. There would never be a major change.

[Karbuncle]

I know, Which is exactly why I'm now agreeing with you. After attempting to find anything meaningfully left out i could not.

You're preaching to the choir right now.

[Juri_Licious]

Thought just hit me....wonder if the 360 puts games on the drive like a PS2 does (an image file and not the actual files). If so...it could run into a similar space issue there too.

At this point, their only option may very well be a whole new game that is only on PC, maybe PS3 (Blu-Ray support, it should be able to handle up to 25GB partitions). Guess that's what they were hoping 14 was going to be as they made the effort to tie in the familiar faces and such. What they should have done though is just a continuation of Vanadiel, incorporating new story lines exploring more of the left out lore like the Mithra and Galka's and such. Allow you to import your toons somehow--maybe a lot of the gear wouldn't translate, maybe just specific sets (AF's, Relics, etc.--RE stuff) and your gil. That would have been a good way to take us past 75 instead of the abyssea route they took.

But anyway... what's done is done.

I've opened the files myself on the 360. They are in about about 10-13 files including the playonline stuff.
However, they aren't image files they are just basic files for 360 format and if you have the right program you can easily export all there data and it's similar to the PC.

[Xikeroth]

PC users have been having to upgrade their hardware to play games since the beginning of gaming. There is no reason SE couldn't team up with sony and just make a true PS3 version of FFXI then basically say "we need all you PS2 users to upgrade to PS3"(which you can actually upgrade the harddrive) That way they can still play the way they are used to.

We don't need FFXIV graphics to enjoy this game, I just want more content that isn't some lame addon. If the Jps love the game they'll do it without a problem, PC users have been having to get new hard drives, video cards, RAM, sometimes totally new systems which cost a lot more then a PS3.

So i think SE should just make it playable on PS3 that would probably help a lot to start off with.

[rog]

PC users have been having to upgrade their hardware to play games since the beginning of gaming. There is no reason SE couldn't team up with sony and just make a true PS3 version of FFXI then basically say "we need all you PS2 users to upgrade to PS3"(which you can actually upgrade the harddrive) That way they can still play the way they are used to.

Money. Sony will not allow them to simply port it to the ps3, and even if they did, once they drop ps2 support, many would not be able to upgrade to the ps3 (or would not), and they would lose more money.

[Atomic_Skull]

Anyone notice how fast an official reply was posted about future expansions (not this year).

They haven't said anything about not dropping PS2 support, makes you wonder...

[Mirage]

They haven't said anything about dropping it either. Meaningless speculation.

[Miiyo]

It's not just PS2. It's mostly the fact that this thing was coded ages ago. I don't know if anyone else has noticed but there's been alot of "we've asked the dev, but due to the coding..." In short, FFXI would need to be completely remade from the ground up to be able to do a massive upgrade. That would require alot more people than they have and alot more money.

[Anathiel]

I have no idea what ps2 limitations are, and how people are freaking out about it. (can someone please explain it to me, i've been gone for 4 years)