Unlike Cecil I'll forever be a Dark Knight~!

[Kagato]

Well 95% of the DRKs on any server don't have Apocalypse. I, honestly, don't have one either. I have a Twilight Scythe and working on Redemption.

Also, yes. DRK/NIN can tank...but so can many jobs /NIN. My point is a DRK loses a lot of potential when doing anything that isn't /SAM. Also, I'll be honest with you. DRK isn't really the go-to job when alliances are looking for someone to tank an NM in Abyssea. Outside of Abyssea, everything is weak enough to be handled by any job as a tank other than some of the biggest HNMs around there.

Still, my whole point wasn't about DRKs having the ability to tank or not. It was about having another defensive ability to use when we need it. We have Dread Spikes for the occasions we need to take physical damage and survive for a while. Why not have something that does the same thing, but for magic? That's all I was saying. :/

[Quetzacoatl]

Ah, okay. I was just skimming through the thread, so I probably missed a few details. Also, I edited my previous post with an idea.

[Kagato]

I saw, and that's not a bad idea either. I mean if the developers want us to be a powerful melee class that uses magic, we should have magic that really benefits our ability to melee and survive while using melee. We're not Black Mages or Red Mages.

[Seoha]

We're Dark Knights, not Dark Mages.
I realize we're a hybrid class, but right now we're a hybrid of something trying to be divided by zero.

I completely agree with Kagato. If we are to use spells, by the end of the fight the spellcasting should've completely aid us to defeat the target, or help us survive.

[Kagato]

Thank you for the support ^_^

[Cruentus]

I'd like to link to a thread I started (because I'm an idiot and didn't look for threads here first) right here.

In addition, I like the critical damage weapon skill and Last Resort ideas. I still think giving us either Fast Cast or a dark magic-exclusive version of Fast Cast would help our spells a lot. Then it's just a matter of giving us more physical power. I am honestly sick and tired of everyone valuing the samurai over the dark knight, just because of its shiny little ability to spam weapon skills.

[Lexin]

I use to consider myself a DRK lifer but not anymore. I keep trying to enjoy it like I did pre-abyssea but it just is not the same. I even leave the game for months with hopes that DRK would get better after updates and they don't. I just started playing again a couple days ago and just can't get into the game like I could a year ago. unless SE does something drastic with the next update for DRK then I just can't see myself playing anymore.

Been told to try other jobs and I have got PLD up to 85 and SAM up to 59 other jobs scattered between level 10 and 45. But at the end of the day DRK was the job for me in FFXI and feels like it has been taken away from me.

[Kagato]

What the developers don't realize is we're basically limiting our own potential because we have skills that are too weak, too short, or too situational.

They may think we have powerful abilities that keep us balanced with other jobs, but Last Resort is too short, Souleater is too situational (really only used with Blood Weapon anymore), and our strongest scythe weaponskill is weaker than the average, common weaponskill from other jobs.

Sure, we have Endark to give us some extra damage, but even that has a negative effect to it. If the weapon you use has it's own ability, such as Twilight Scythe's "Death" ability, Endark takes over that effect! Absorbs take too long to cast and anything that isn't Dark Magic is useless to us.

Dark Knights are weak because everything we do is situational as opposed to every other melee job, and when we can do something, 9 times out of 10 it's because we can stun the target and at this point, Blue Mages and Red Mages are preferred to even do that!

The first step in the right direction, IMO, is to make Last Resort longer and to give us a good, current weaponskill. Infernal Scythe was a joke and Quietus is just a slightly beefed up Guillotine that can only be obtained from Redemption or that WoE weapon. Sucks that even Quietus is outperformed by the average DD weaponskill >.>

Bah. I'm just ranting about things that have already been mentioned. Sorry, folks.

[Gamiina]

i wouldn't apologize for ranting, in this case it shows you have an emotional investment in what your talking about.

At this point i just cannot fathom that SE could NOT have some kind of adjustment in works for Drk.

I honestly believe its just a matter of what and how much.

Will it be too little or even worse... will it be something that is just not usefull.

[Seoha]

i wouldn't apologize for ranting, in this case it shows you have an emotional investment in what your talking about.

At this point i just cannot fathom that SE could NOT have some kind of adjustment in works for Drk.

I honestly believe its just a matter of what and how much.

Will it be too little or even worse... will it be something that is just not usefull.

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