Menus, Dialogues, Confirmations, and General Redundancies.

[Merton9999]

I agree with the intent here. It's not that confirmations aren't helpful, it's that at best NPC interaction can be described as grossly inconsistent. For example, I HATE that I can't use the cancel button to get out of Joachim's and Horst's dialog - I have to choose the cancel option on the menu. With many NPCs, I can just hit the cancel button on the controller.

The problem with changing this now is that all the dialog behavior I've gotten used to based on what NPC I'm standing in front of would have to be relearned. And as much as I'm annoyed at knowing there will be new behavior with each NPC I think I'd be even more annoyed having to unlearn UI options I've been used to for years.

So I'd actually vote for the already simple options to remain the same as they currently are, even if inconsistent. I will scream "YES", however, for simplifying trophy trading, Dominion op confirmation, and Atma application. Also, is there an option to buy all temp items from the cruor prospector? That would be nice to add, except for brew.

Suggestions like this are actually my biggest request for the game at this time, more so than any job balancing or content requests. Simplifying annoying NPC choices, and saving gear sets for easy equip and transfer are at the top. Kudos to the dev team for taking some steps in this direction with the next patch, including stackable items and delivering EX items (though the exception list is rather disheartening).

[Kaych]

Agreed, love this thread^^ Added a link to it in my "Quick Fix" thread^_-

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...9688#post69688

[rog]

Also, make it possible to cancel out of ALL dialogues.

[Alhanelem]

They can't do that. There are some dialogs that need to be not cancellable, mainly those in cutscenes and those where you trade something to someone to do something and the item money is taken immediately when you do so (e.g. whitegate warp taru and wildcat warp npcs). That said, the abyssea NPCs do neither and should be cancellable.

[rog]

Sure they can. Those warp npcs work just fine when you cancel them (aka dc). Once you log back in, you can talk to them, and they will warp you without paying again.

[Alhanelem]

[QUOTE][(aka dc)/QUOTE]You're not supposed to abuse disconnecting. And even if you don't consider that, it will make a lot of people go "oh sh*t" unnecessarily at thinking they lost their money or item or whatever when they probably didn't.

Some events shouldn't be skipped, whether you think they should be able to be or not.

[macbain]

Definitely in favor of this

[rog]

[(aka dc)

You're not supposed to abuse disconnecting. And even if you don't consider that, it will make a lot of people go "oh sh*t" unnecessarily at thinking they lost their money or item or whatever when they probably didn't.

Some events shouldn't be skipped, whether you think they should be able to be or not.

Uh, since when? I do not remember reading any rules about strategic dcing. Not that it matters, since i never said anything about "abusing disconnecting". It is possible to dc after trading a silver piece, and before you warp ya know.

How often do people accidentally cancel out of a dialogue anyway...? And even if they do, and then worry they lost their money, who cares? As soon as they talk to the npc again, they will find out they did not.

And still, there are many npcs which cannot be canceled out of, even when no items/money change hands.

[Sagian]

Maybe no one here remembers, but the AH used to not require several confirmations. They were added because people were spamming through, making mistakes, and paying 100,000 gil for something instead of the going rate of 10,000.

[Rambus]

you wonder why FFXIV is a flop, they repeated this issue there.

my biggest thing with menus is the campain battle and trying to get into an union/buying temp items.

first you have to pull up the slow menu ( gets slower with all the battle spam and npcs around)
then you have to hit union then you try to hit confrim before you get skip event.

need to get rid of some skip events too.

with temp items you get kicked out and have to start all over again when you mis click something and say no.

same with atma, when i click and say no it kicks me out of the menu, i do not want to be kicked out I just want to go back. there is not tnough of go back fuctions in the game.

I also hate clicking the wrong thing because of this:

It really really really really gets my goat when I have to not only sift through a superfluous amount of confirmations, but to have them all defaulted to "No" or "Cancel". (Not every time, which can be just as annoying due to the lack of consistency)

SE DEV/RE{ please wach this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EaGvRv6jqw

see how annoying it is? FFXI is same boat....
well not AS bad but still.... and why not have click buy back like wow does?