Feedback related to Vana'Bout

[kaffy]

"The Great Odyssey Campaign" is by far the least impressive monthly campaign ever created, and a poor reward for Vana'Bout. The amount of bonus segments in particular is paltry when you compare it to other campaigns like Omen job cards where your return is doubled or tripled. 10% is just too low.

[Armarc]

I was excited about the campaign since Segment farming is old and boring content. But 10% is not enough to bring me back into Odyssey. What a miss.

[Alhanelem]

Okay would you rather they just don't have campaigns at all?

I'm not going to say it's an amazing campaign because it isn't, but you could sound a little less ungrateful lol....

[Zenion]

Odyssey campaign: Good, we like to see this.

Odyssey campaign in its current form: A little underwhelming, apparently, not enough to incentivize players to do Odyssey if they weren't already.

Conclusion: Keep "The Great Odyssey Campaign" for normal monthly rotations where a little of anything is nice, but consider developing the "PLUS" version to use if it's to be offered as a special reward in the future?

(That would help motivate people to do Vana'bout more, too; offer the regular campaign at 100% of plaudit goal, and the improved version at 150%?)

[Alhanelem]

Odyssey campaign: Good, we like to see this.

Odyssey campaign in its current form: A little underwhelming, apparently, not enough to incentivize players to do Odyssey if they weren't already.

Conclusion: Keep "The Great Odyssey Campaign" for normal monthly rotations where a little of anything is nice, but consider developing the "PLUS" version to use if it's to be offered as a special reward in the future?

(That would help motivate people to do Vana'bout more, too; offer the regular campaign at 100% of plaudit goal, and the improved version at 150%?)

That's more like it

[RichLester]

What they also should've done for that new campaign is make the time limit 1 hour, instead of 30mins. That would've been worth it, then.

[Dragoy]

~ Vana'bout Feedback (2025-02) ~

This time around I completed only about 2 day's worth of objectives, in part due to how the event still works, and in part due to unrelated matters.

I really do want to like the event as a whole, but it's just not quite there yet.

Hopefully we will see a lot of improvements with the next round!

~ Objectives ~

The Good

The only good thing I can really say about these, are the changes made since the last round.

There were some new objectives added too, which is nice!

• The "Emptiness" objective was changed to a one-time objective.
• The requirements for the following objectives were reduced:

  • I'm on a Boat (VB)
  • Obtain Gallantry (VB)
  • Obtain Hallmarks (VB)

• The number of daily objectives was reduced.
• The amount of plaudits needed to receive the personal rewards were reduced.

The Bad

• Vana'Bout starts at an odd time, with 7(?) hours of a day left for a full set of objectives.
• Vana'bout ends at an odd time, with 7(?) hours of a day missing for a full set of objectives.
• The objective list menu item placement is not user-friendly, disturbing muscle memory every time the event comes and goes.
• Daily objectives remain when not completed, meaning players are stuck with objectives they could not complete, and likely will not be able to complete during the next day either. This makes them not only lose on total points available, but it will also be difficult, if not impossible to synchronise with other players to do the same objectives at the same time.
• There is no way to catch up if a single daily objective was not completed.
• The battlefields that may or may not require three (3) characters to even enter /can/ be fun, but they don't fit into a daily schedule in my opinion. Furthermore, they require spending either log-in points or Beastmen's seals, which have better uses.
• "Weekly Routine" and "Emptiness", though one-time objectives, can still be a bother due to the time limit on the quests required.
• The requirements for following objectives are (still) too high:

  • Obtain Gallantry (VB)
  • Obtain Hallmarks (VB)

The Ugly

• The first set of objectives included the Monster Rearing objective, which I am sure many were unable to complete due to the time Vana'Bout starts.

  • This kind of objectives would not be an issue if the Vana'bout round started when the day changes (Earth time).

What Do?

Ideas towards how things could possibly be changed.

• Start and end the Vana'Bout round when the day changes (Earth time).
• Move the event related Records of Eminence menu item into 'Objective List', away from the Quests window.
• If we really need to include them, perhaps change all the objectives related to battlefields that require at least 3 members, log-in points items, or Beastmen's seals into one-time objectives.
• Replace daily objectives on the next day, even if they were not completed.
• Add the new objectives when the day changes, while keeping the incomplete ones available as well, resulting in a kind of a back-log of objectives that can be completed when it is more convenient to the player. This would also give players a way to catch up.
• Either don't include objectives that require completion of quests that can be attempted only once per week, or adjust the quests so that they can be attempted more often (why are there time restrictions like these still around at all, one doth pondereth).
• Lower the requirements for following objectives (more):

  • Obtain Gallantry (VB)
  • Obtain Hallmarks (VB)

~ Personal Rewards ~

In general, the personal rewards seem very underwhelming, and/or just very weird.

For some of them "honourable" mentions will follow.

The "O.K. I Maybe Guess" Good

Bronze Tier

• Kupon I-Aby

  • Would be nice if this was more than 3. Say, 11 maybe? That might make it a bit over-the-top for players who have multiple characters... but are we taking that into consideration in anything else, really...
  • Someawhats surprised this is not Gold tier (good that it is not!).

Silver Tier

• 100 Deeds of Heroism

  • Actually pretty good for those chasing Monberaux.
  • Someawhats surprised this is not Gold tier (good that it is not!).

Gold Tier

• Moogle Memorandum

  • Good especially for those wanting to try Odyssey Gaol solo or with a friend or few at least a second time.

• 3 x Old Case +1

  • Perhaps this could be like, 11 x Old Case +1 instead, but compared to everything else, I suppose it is okay. Of course +2 would be much more better appreciated!

The Confusing Bad

Silver Tier

• 1 x 100 Byne Bill / L. Jadeshell / M. Silverpiece

  • Were these suppose to be 11 x or so? Just one of these can often be obtained in less than 5 minutes in Dynamis. These seem really out of place here.

Gold Tier

• 198 x Alexandrite

  • Was this supposed to be 1980? This seems even more out of place than the Dynamis 100-coins on the Silver tier.

The "Why Is This a Thing" Ugly

• I do not know for certain, but I dare to assume a little that the title reward is still given only to the 10 first ranked characters.

  • One player can effectively push everyone else outside the realm of title-having by using multiple characters, and even if there weren't so many players nowadays playing more than one character (at the same time or otherwise), and every one of them were real players, this just seems wrong. I can not see a good reason for it to remain implemented like this.

What Do?

• Bestow the title reward to everyone who reach Gold tier.

  • The title is pretty much the only thing I am interested in what comes to the rewards at this time. Last time I was pushed down to 11th in the ranking at the end, and I really did hope I'd get it this time, but it just was not meant to be. ^^

• Some of the rewards seem very out of place, and/or come in a strange quantity considering the effort they are normally obtained. Overall the rewards seem to be in need of a lot more thought.

~ Overall Rewards ~

• The Exemplar Points Bonus Campaign will probably be a good to have, though I am unsure why it needs to have that 500,000 points limit.
• Unsure if the 6 more days on the monthly campaigns will be noticeable, but I suppose it is something.
• I never really used the Matsui-P alter ego (I'm sorry!), so I don't really have anything to say on that one.

The personal overall rewards for me currently advertise '10000 exemplar points' and '10000 EXP.' (which I can not receive as the menu simply returns back where it was), and I kind of feel like the 10000 experience points does not compare very well to 10000 exemplar points, but since the menu appears to be broken, I can not really tell what it is supposed to even award us at this time.

Now if it was like last time, 21100 job points, that would be a little bit more like it, though of course that was a text error only, which was present during the previous round (proably still is, but can not confirm... and it probably was the Gold tier Job Points reward that had and/or has that issue).

~ See Also ~

These are related stand-alone threads from ages past, or not so past.

• Vana'Bout Category Placement Feedback
• Vana'Bout Round 2 Rollout Unfair to Those Seeking Title
• Vana'bout Gold Tier Rewards
• Why is it necessary to punish players for missing Vana'bout objectives?
• Vana'bout: "I'm on a boat"
• Thank you for Ballista in Vana'Bout
• Why I'm choosing to Scan'a'Trout instead of doing Vana'Doubt.

I do believe that is, as they say, that... for now.

Thank you!

[BobbinT]

Personally agreed with rearing, albeit glad on my end already having access to it being the quickest VBD to tag clear for. The process unlocking that still quite long, especially furrows ranking if players too new for finding out the "cheat" way to fast rank it, which personally took the long way & finding out a bit too late back then.


As for 1-time Ambus, unfortunately v1 this month didn't make it easier for gallantry farms, my latency's just way too worse to attempt /heal to avoid Odin's ohkos. & yes, unfortunately Odin even pops on v1ve as well. Doing v2 are even worse since near-worthless amount of gallantries to get even on d+.


Btw, i picked exemplar on gold tier, is that why I didn't see another exemplar point reward after current VB ends? only saw the xps.

[Dragoy]

Personally agreed with rearing, albeit glad on my end already having access to it being the quickest VBD to tag clear for. The process unlocking that still quite long, especially furrows ranking if players too new for finding out the "cheat" way to fast rank it, which personally took the long way & finding out a bit too late back then.

Yeah, unlocking it in the first place is quite the adventure... but the fact they had it as the first day objective, which is not even a half a day long, means that many would have already interacted with their critters before the event starts, and as such, be unable to complete it just because of that.

Not very nice, I think.

As for 1-time Ambus, unfortunately v1 this month didn't make it easier for gallantry farms, my latency's just way too worse to attempt /heal to avoid Odin's ohkos. & yes, unfortunately Odin even pops on v1ve as well. Doing v2 are even worse since near-worthless amount of gallantries to get even on d+.

Yep.

Btw, i picked exemplar on gold tier, is that why I didn't see another exemplar point reward after current VB ends? only saw the xps.

When you checked the overall rewards, did you have a job set that is able to obtain exemplar points at the time?

[BobbinT]

When you checked the overall rewards, did you have a job set that is able to obtain exemplar points at the time?

I guess it finally does. I did checked few days ago, about a day after VB ends, but there was only exp option on it, which I didn't take since all my jobs already capped level. Unfortunately I forgot taking screenshot at the time. Another thing is that I changed job on Mhaura at the time to mastered ones before checking with moogle, it might be another cause though can't really confirm, today I was just curiously changing job before coming to Mhaura, hence that might trigger perhaps...







There's another another issue, albeit not that important on my end: have registered my name to ranking, albeit around midway of VB. Moogle did say the change would take some time to register. Unfortunately in the end it didn't register at all, despite mine should've met midway. Oh well... ^^;