Ambuscade! 1 NPC, 100 players

[Jile]

5. Stop allowing people to form their own parties, force them to accept scrubs /sarcasm

Seriously, people are soloing with trusts because other folks won't deign to play with them/don't make it fun.

So if you want less soloists, be more inclusive in your parties, be more fun! Teach a new player the ropes, have fun with a scrub, etc.

But given that this is the *first* solo friendly event with any relevant gear whatsoever, in AGES folks should not be complaining that soloists want to access it, especially when folks won't even let people exp with them anymore because their precious CP/hr will be ruined if they helped some folks catch up.

I love this game I just wish folks would be a little more lighthearted about it sometimes.

This is it exactly. People push the weaker ones to the ground and complain when they have to stand by themselves and they solo content.

I don't expect people's attitude to change so since SE opened this Pandora's box, they need to give every server 100 instances at a time so we can move on with xi-life. There are what, 16 former world-servers that are collecting dust? Why not convert a few to instance-servers so we can get this fixed?

[Keido]

5. Stop allowing people to form their own parties, force them to accept scrubs /sarcasm

Seriously, people are soloing with trusts because other folks won't deign to play with them/don't make it fun.

So if you want less soloists, be more inclusive in your parties, be more fun! Teach a new player the ropes, have fun with a scrub, etc.

But given that this is the *first* solo friendly event with any relevant gear whatsoever, in AGES folks should not be complaining that soloists want to access it, especially when folks won't even let people exp with them anymore because their precious CP/hr will be ruined if they helped some folks catch up.

I love this game I just wish folks would be a little more lighthearted about it sometimes.

You are full of it. That's not the case at all from what I see. Here is a few things I see.

People that will only play one job even though they have others, not accept advice from more knowledgeable players, ask for help but not know what they need, and try once and call it good enough. You could be one of those players I don't know what I do know is they are prevalent. Which is fine maybe you are so introverted that you cant or wont make online friends no issue with that. What I do take issue with is you holding up my game because you actively refuse to look for a group or be even slightly flexible when trying to form one. Players with that attitude can only solo period rather than say the good players should be forced to take the scrubs how about just one of you scrubs round up all the other scrubs make a party and form a relationship. I know that seems way too hard but it really isn't. Don't pass the buck to others because your too lazy to push a button.

I can only say what its like on Phoenix so your experience might be different. Most of the time we have 5 solo entrants and a duo. While those people are in there are 30 people waiting to get in. Is that poor design you bet it is. If say you were required to have 6 people enter and really you can do this content with any party make up of any competent players 1 person is left out not 30 spamming a book for 45 min to fight something that takes 2 min to kill. Its absolutely crazy. It isn't difficult to group up its purely that you don't want to.

It really isn't a difficult concept. Maybe it is because I actively have friends that I play with and we have groups that we do things with. I help run one of the link shells still active on my server so while I would love to take you "Scrubs" often times I am already in a party with people who are my friends. So buck up lil camper make a party with those around you without one. Who knows you might just make a friend that will be with you for years.

[Raydeus]

So how are the congestion fixes going? I've tried a couple of times to get in but it's been always congested so I just go do something else instead.

Also, which Trusts are working better for the current fights?

What I do take issue with is you holding up my game because you actively refuse to look for a group or be even slightly flexible when trying to form one.

Oh cry me a river. This is probably the first relevant content that is open to solo players and small parties from the start in years, and you are complaining because they are holding "your game" and not playing the way that is convenient for you? How about instead of trying to tell others how to play the game you just go and do all the other party based content available to you and your friends?

Solo players have to skip most of the party content that is added until the devs open it up for soloing (usually once the content has become irrelevant) so surely you can live with skipping Ambuscade if the way it was implemented bothers you so much.

[Keido]

Oh cry me a river. This is probably the first relevant content that is open to solo players and small parties from the start in years, and you are complaining because they are holding "your game" and not playing the way that is convenient for you? How about instead of trying to tell others how to play the game you just go and do all the other party based content available to you and your friends?

Solo players have to skip most of the party content that is added until the devs open it up for soloing (usually once the content has become irrelevant) so surely you can live with skipping Ambuscade if the way it was implemented bothers you so much.

If there wasn't a limit on it sure. However because there is a limit you cant ignore it. How about you don't be so obtuse. Make a party and benefit everyone stop being selfish and self righteous. You and your ilks insistent whining about content and how easy it needs to be is the problem you are causing the bottle necks. My game play should not impact you and yours should not impact mine.

We will see what the "Fix" however I have my doubts that most of us including you happy go lucky soloists will still be there standing at a book for 45 min to fight something that takes 2 min to kill. Well for those of us that form parties it takes 2 min to kill. I have no idea what average kill time is for soloists. Fact remains that they are the bottleneck and the problem with the content along with how its been implemented. Easy fix make it require 6 people to enter boom problem solved.

[Eckamus]

Obviously, there needs to be a higher of availability to enter Ambuscade. A possible solution could involve (some things have been suggested by others also):

Create 3 access areas - 1 each in Mhaura, Selbina and Rabao
Create a separate instance zone for each town - (e.g.,: Legion - Mhaura, Legion - Selbina, etc...) allowing each to contain the normal 3 participant parties or more would also be welcome. I'm unsure of the actual limit of these instanced zones.

This would allow for a easing of entry into Ambuscade, since a total of 9 participant parties could partake in the event at once. I am sure something like this would help, as long as it is able to be done that is.

[Olor]

People that will only play one job even though they have others, not accept advice from more knowledgeable players, ask for help but not know what they need, and try once and call it good enough. You could be one of those players I don't know what I do know is they are prevalent.

Which is fine maybe you are so introverted that you cant or wont make online friends no issue with that. What I do take issue with is you holding up my game because you actively refuse to look for a group or be even slightly flexible when trying to form one.

It really isn't a difficult concept. Maybe it is because I actively have friends that I play with and we have groups that we do things with. I help run one of the link shells still active on my server so while I would love to take you "Scrubs" often times I am already in a party with people who are my friends. So buck up lil camper make a party with those around you without one. Who knows you might just make a friend that will be with you for years.

a) I am totally willing to change jobs, but I am not going to start from the beginning to level w/e flavour of the month job SE hasn't nerfed lately. I've got BLU and BRD in a way that is half decent right now. BST, I generally refuse to play since they nerfed it and I don't find it fun anymore. My THF is okay but I think people generally would rather have a BLU anyway.

b) I am happy to take advice if it's useful advice "get this gear from content that is only really achievable for an optimized group" is not useful advice. "Level and gear a new job from scratch" is not useful advice. "Stop sucking" is not useful advice. People not knowing what they need... why is this a problem, it's a game not an application for a doctorate program. People shouldn't have to spend all day researching how to play a game. Besides which, most of the wikis are not very helpful anymore. I read threads on BG etc, but it's not reasonable to expect every player to do this.

c) I play to pass the time and relax. It is not relaxing having people angry because you're not a perfect player. I tend to solo because I don't take the game very seriously. I love making new friends but I find it hard to find players with the same attitude these days. Probably most of them have been driven out by the lack of ways to advance solo and low-man with non-optimal gear. When I find folks, I totally play with them though.

d) I do play with others when they are around and interested and have the right attitude. I am not going to play with folks that are cranky and angry and perfectionist though. I have been mostly duoing/trioing this event.

Instead of whining about soloists, invite others to join your group. Or go do one of the 10 other events that rewards relevant equipment that is only obtainable by people in optimized groups. Whining that ONE event IN THE ENTIRE GAME that drops relevant items is doable by solo folks in beginner gear is totally unreasonable.

For the game to survive there has to be content that folks can do to advance their characters before they have strong social networks in game... especially since the community has gotten so insular.

[detlef]

Are soloers the problem? Are players grouping and spamming the content the problem? The answer is yes. If you're trying to do the content, then you're contributing to everybody's misery. The only thing players can do about it is group up more or ignore the content and I guess both of those things are unreasonable.

[Keido]

a) I am totally willing to change jobs, but I am not going to start from the beginning to level w/e flavour of the month job SE hasn't nerfed lately. I've got BLU and BRD in a way that is half decent right now. BST, I generally refuse to play since they nerfed it and I don't find it fun anymore. My THF is okay but I think people generally would rather have a BLU anyway.

b) I am happy to take advice if it's useful advice "get this gear from content that is only really achievable for an optimized group" is not useful advice. "Level and gear a new job from scratch" is not useful advice. "Stop sucking" is not useful advice. People not knowing what they need... why is this a problem, it's a game not an application for a doctorate program. People shouldn't have to spend all day researching how to play a game. Besides which, most of the wikis are not very helpful anymore. I read threads on BG etc, but it's not reasonable to expect every player to do this.

c) I play to pass the time and relax. It is not relaxing having people angry because you're not a perfect player. I tend to solo because I don't take the game very seriously. I love making new friends but I find it hard to find players with the same attitude these days. Probably most of them have been driven out by the lack of ways to advance solo and low-man with non-optimal gear. When I find folks, I totally play with them though.

d) I do play with others when they are around and interested and have the right attitude. I am not going to play with folks that are cranky and angry and perfectionist though. I have been mostly duoing/trioing this event.

Instead of whining about soloists, invite others to join your group. Or go do one of the 10 other events that rewards relevant equipment that is only obtainable by people in optimized groups. Whining that ONE event IN THE ENTIRE GAME that drops relevant items is doable by solo folks in beginner gear is totally unreasonable.

For the game to survive there has to be content that folks can do to advance their characters before they have strong social networks in game... especially since the community has gotten so insular.

You might be on the wrong server then. Good people still play the game and help others we are out there. I have no problem inviting people outside the LS depending on the difficulty of the fight and the persons willingness to listen. I don't think the community is insular at all you just have to find the right people that know how to build a party with the pieces available to them. You are correct with some of the mentality for some of the content however its not true of everyone. We have built players and still do from nothing in our LS. That doesn't mean that everyone is willing to do that but there are plenty of people that are. Good attitude and willingness to take advice and know what you want/need go a very long way.

You would rather get 75 or whatever the min is instead of 300 or 500 a kill? I don't understand. Maybe I am just lucky to be surrounded by good people and have avoided all the people that really are bad. Again if the content was not so limited this would not be a huge issue but you have to spam the content to get the pieces. Allowing a single person to block many is bad. That persons unwillingness to find good people is also bad. I think some of you wear this gimp tag like some sort of honor badge when you really don't have too. What you need to do is find the good people that play get to know them play and play with them. This game is already on super easy mode and its longevity is in question so why would we not want communities any longer? Anytime you wanna come to Phoenix and join a shell that cares about its people you just let me know. Provided you have a good attitude know what you want and listen about builds or strategies you would fit right in. We take anyone. We build players because that is really what you have to do now if you want success.

[Olor]

There are cool people on Asura, I hang out with a few people, I'm just a casual, and I don't necessarily sub every month etc. So I will find a cool LS, play for a while, life gets busy, I drop sub for a month or two, come back and the LS has disappeared. This happens all the time.

I'd love to get 300 or 500 a kill, I'd be happy to join any group that is interested in grabbing me, happy to switch to bard, happy to do whatever, as long as folks are going to be friendly and welcoming. As I said above, I have mostly been doing this content with other people, but I am not going to stand around *not* doing the content in my limited playtime, waiting and hoping for someone to invite me. I am just going to go do a couple pops. 150 points is better than 0 points.

I am glad you are a friendly bunch who pick up strangers and give them a break, unfortunately it isn't always easy to find folks like that.

[BlackHalo714]

Sometimes I think we are at civil war with each other when really it's the game design that is at fault. I like the idea of Ambuscade it is the way the implemented the content was poorly done. They advertised this content as casual for solo and group play. I don't mind teaming up with a group or doing some runs solo because of time restriction but spamming one book that takes longer to get in than to actually do the content isn't fun.

I know they said they were working on a solution but I guess I am to question why couldn't this be designed into the open world. They just introduced new mounts and have so many beautiful zones that barely ever go to anymore. Why are we crammed in a small town zone spamming one book to get into a instance fight? SMH i guess. I hope they figure something out with this. With the current rewards of Ambuscade it wouldn't seem like it will relieve congestion anytime soon.

Edit: Wrote this post before I logged on today seems entry time is much better. I still wish they could of done something different than a instance but happy hunting.