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  1. #31
    Player svengalis's Avatar
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    Ninjas can't take birds. It's been like that for a couple years now so I doubt SE will do anything about now. Abyssea has changed the game many people don't evne do regular exp parties anymore so this really is not an issue.
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    it's what you learn after you know it all that counts

  2. #32
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    ninja can tank birds fine.. i leveled my ninja up in the colibri camps in east ronfaure.. (no power level)

    just use the slow / para / blind tools

    they really do help in keeping shadows up. and your healer can concentrate on keeping people healed.
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  3. #33
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    Jinpu is just special, the last I heard versus puks the first hit deals damage and the second hit heals them, suggesting it's a dual physical/elemental WS. It's considered an elemental WS for red procs fyi.
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  4. #34
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    SAM Lv 99
    Saying it's NOT an elemental ws is just plain wrong though. Hybrid, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    I didn't have any problems holding hate or not dieing when I leveled ninja in 2004/2005. You have much more to work with now, it should be easy. I blame player error, if you spent less time pretending to be awesome and having relics/mythics, and learned how to play the game, I bet you could do it too.
    You know how much DDs have been buffed since 2004/2005. 2004/2005 hate methods aren't going to work the same way, unless the DDs are just plain horrible
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  6. #36
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    Since when is shuriken ninja not a good low level dd?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    Since when is shuriken ninja not a good low level dd?
    Since people were too lazy to go cap throwing on another job (as leveling it as you go, it'll suck becuase of how fast you out level your skill)
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream_Soda View Post
    Since people were too lazy to go cap throwing on another job (as leveling it as you go, it'll suck becuase of how fast you out level your skill)
    Ah, ok. Because i was going to say, i've never seen anyone else do more damage than my ninja did from 18-55ish.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    Ah, ok. Because i was going to say, i've never seen anyone else do more damage than my ninja did from 18-55ish.
    Play w/ a good pup. W/ proper attachments, the maton w/o the master's damage added should top pretty much every parse until at least 50. I had a few pts though where a drg + wyvern would beat my maton by a small bit, but adding my damage put me ahead by tons. 50-60 puppet + master's damage was topping polearm wars sams and drgs, and even rngs, but not by much.

    61+ is when pup begins to start losing parses, but still very competitive (first parse I lost on pup was in a lv 61 pt vs a drg, who was ahead by 2%) . 70+ they get curb stomped.
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    Last edited by Cream_Soda; 03-27-2011 at 10:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream_Soda View Post
    Play w/ a good pup. W/ proper attachments, the maton w/o the master's damage added should top pretty much every parse until at least 50. I had a few pts though where a drg + wyvern would beat my maton by a small bit, but adding my damage put me ahead by tons. 50-60 puppet + master's damage was topping polearm wars sams and drgs, and even rngs, but not by much.

    61+ is when pup begins to start losing parses, but still very competitive (first parse I lost on pup was in a lv 61 pt vs a drg, who was ahead by 2%) . 70+ they get curb stomped.
    Haven't played with any good pups at low levels, ever, but can't say that surprises me.
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