No, I want 3 rings at least.

[Demonjustin]

By your logic I can just write to SE "Please hand me every gear in this game and put them in my delivery box so I don't have to grind for them, that makes me happy and you're supposed to make me happy cuz I'm paying $$"

Must you conflate every issue with the idea that it's somehow equally as viable a premise as asking for every piece of gear to be handed out to you? Really?

[Malphius]

Well you win the Cherrypicked Quote of the year award. Congratulations!

Thanks! What do I win? Debate with reasonable people?

So, a large number of new jobs to choose from to be your main job = large number of new rings to choose from for your main job to use.

People don't have "main jobs" anymore. These aren't the old days of grinding out exp.

The reward for WoTG has multiple combinations, so it's more than 1/4 of choice.

What are the rules here for judging how we don't break tradition? You guys just toss stuff against the wall to see what sticks. The earring reward system was no where near the CoP or ToAU reward system nor should it have to be and nor should the new reward system be. The game evolves, simple as that which is why it's perfectly acceptable and reasonable to expect to pick a few rings from the TWELVE they just created. Basing the future on the past is a ridiculous notion.

You can switch your jobs back and forth even if you can only choose 1 ring, idk why's job change system relevant in this discussion.

It's relevant because people have several job classes now. Again, nobody has a main job anymore. The game mechanics have ensured that. Being offered a choice of 3 classes of rings IE: Physical, Magical & Misc. and letting you choose 1 from each would maintain balance and fit the reality of todays game play.

But if the game designer only want the player to have 1 ring, then I'll just make my choice. It won't make me feel unhappy, I'll just go ahead and....make a choice like how the designer want me to.

I guess we can get rid of the community reps now since you're speaking for the developers. You have no idea what they want or have really considered. How many times has SE implemented new content, then almost immediately had to backtrack and fix it to fit the reality of what the community expects or wants? All the time. In fact its the reason we even have community reps now. SE ignored and punished it's fanbase and they lost a ton of subscribers. I'm glad they listen now and want our feedback. The game has gotten much better since they started listening.

HP bayld supply isn't a good excuse, they can make it drop from other content or something, or make it purchasable by plasm.

So asking to choose 3 rings is excessive but expecting SE to create and implement new content to create HP bayld isn't?

Do I WANT a 2nd ring? Yes.

Then ASK for it!

I'll just go ahead and....make a choice like how the designer want me to.

What a good girl.

[Raydeus]

We demand...

...join the cause.

"We"?
"Cause"?
Seriously?

The heck are you talking about? But since you asked for us to voice our opinion then I'll say:

NO THANKS, I DO NOT WANT MORE THAN ONE RING AS A REWARD.

[Comeatmebro]

-reward system that applies to essentially everyone and will get people interested in the missions
-method to change them right off the bat that can be done with relatively little effort
(anyone crying about bayld: 10 min running 5 courier imprims 6x = 24 days and an hour total of effort to get 300k bayld, not any worse than CoP ring condition)

anyone who isn't satisfied with this doesn't want to be satisfied, pretty clear

[Afania]

Must you conflate every issue with the idea that it's somehow equally as viable a premise as asking for every piece of gear to be handed out to you? Really?

Because this issue is clearly "I want this gear, but SE won't let me have it, please let me have it because I'm paying"

Not sure what's the difference. If the game designer just doesn't want the player to get the item....just don't get it?

[Afania]

Basing the future on the past is a ridiculous notion.

Hmmmm I don't think I'm the one basing the future on the past? Lol.

Tell that to Rajas and Epona's.

I didn't miss your point I just don't agree with it. I think most people have several jobs and classes that they want to play and they enjoy switching back and forth between them. I know I do. I know I NEED to, to get things done.

I've come up with a great way to keep this with in the realm of everyones traditional views. When you could only pick 1 or 4 rings, you are getting 25% of the total reward offerings. Choosing 3 of 12 will also let you select 25% of the reward offerings. There. Fixed. Everyone wins.

It's relevant because people have several job classes now. Again, nobody has a main job anymore. The game mechanics have ensured that. Being offered a choice of 3 classes of rings IE: Physical, Magical & Misc. and letting you choose 1 from each would maintain balance and fit the reality of todays game play.

So, if you don't have the ring for your job, you can't play your job anymore? I'm confused.

So asking to choose 3 rings is excessive but expecting SE to create and implement new content to create HP bayld isn't?

You can't choose 3 rings is not an "issue" that needs to be fixed. Ergon weapon costs 3 times more than mythic is clearly....not very logical. Since they're both same weapon class so their cost should be around the same.

I'm not sure why are you comparing them.

Then ASK for it!

I want an empy afterglow but I can't get it, can SE give it to me? I'm paying $$ so it's SE's job to make me happy.

AFTERGLOW GIMME GIMME GIMME.

What a good girl.

I'm just gonna change ring when I need to, lol.

[Malphius]

Afania,

It's pretty obvious that English isn't your first language and probably why your comprehension on so many things that are being said is so poor. I'm clearly wasting my time.

I want an empy afterglow but I can't get it, can SE give it to me? I'm paying $$ so it's SE's job to make me happy.

AFTERGLOW GIMME GIMME GIMME.

Can't reason with a troll.

As for Stompa,

You can play how you like but you're in the minority.

[Protey]

Again, nobody has a main job anymore. The game mechanics have ensured that. Being offered a choice of 3 classes of rings IE: Physical, Magical & Misc. and letting you choose 1 from each would maintain balance and fit the reality of todays game play.

first person i've ever heard of say that people don't have main jobs anymore. EVERYONE i know puts more effort into one job more than any other. Yes people play multiple jobs, but that doesn't mean they don't have a main job. And game mechanics has nothing to do with it. Nothing in the game mechanics requires you to change jobs mid battle. I think you meant: with the declining population people need to have multiple jobs geared and skilled well in order to be able to complete content.

I find it funny that people are complaining about not being able to get more than one ring. It's like a spoiled child getting something, but it's never enough. Some people aren't happy no matter what. But SE even catered to people like you, they made it so your choice isn't permanent. One can easily make a choice and change it later on. It's not like getting bayld is hard or even that time consuming. As for concerns for HP-bayld: not everyone trades their bayld for HP-bayld. And if you want HP-bayld so badly, go get it yourself instead of relying on the community to get it for you and buying it from them. I'll probably get backlash from that last comment, something about "o woe is me, i don't have the time to go farm bayld/HP-bayld". Well ergon weapons aren't required to play the game. They are "nice to have". If you want the item, go work for it. And if you say this is a game, it shouldn't be work, realize this: That's what makes a game, a game worth playing. If everything is just handed to you, it stops being a game and is more like TV. The very thought of people having ultimate gear without having to work for them makes me sick. Can't stand people like that. If anyone who is reading this is an instant gratification person (I know some of you are) then please stop playing this game and stop posting. I don't want you ruining this game for me.


tl;dr: suck it up. make a choice of which ring you want and drive on.

[Afania]

Afania,

It's pretty obvious that English isn't your first language and probably why your comprehension on so many things that are being said is so poor. I'm clearly wasting my time.



Can't reason with a troll.

As for Stompa,

You can play how you like but you're in the minority.

Malphius: If you don't agree with my opinion, you are a troll with bad reading comprehension and you're in the minority.

Don't need superb reading comprehension to understand that you're making a big fuss about getting extra rings, while personal attack/act aggressive toward anyone disagreeing with your opinion lol.

[Afania]

first person i've ever heard of say that people don't have main jobs anymore. EVERYONE i know puts more effort into one job more than any other. Yes people play multiple jobs, but that doesn't mean they don't have a main job. And game mechanics has nothing to do with it. Nothing in the game mechanics requires you to change jobs mid battle. I think you meant: with the declining population people need to have multiple jobs geared and skilled well in order to be able to complete content.

I find it funny that people are complaining about not being able to get more than one ring. It's like a spoiled child getting something, but it's never enough. Some people aren't happy no matter what. But SE even catered to people like you, they made it so your choice isn't permanent. One can easily make a choice and change it later on. It's not like getting bayld is hard or even that time consuming. As for concerns for HP-bayld: not everyone trades their bayld for HP-bayld. And if you want HP-bayld so badly, go get it yourself instead of relying on the community to get it for you and buying it from them. I'll probably get backlash from that last comment, something about "o woe is me, i don't have the time to go farm bayld/HP-bayld". Well ergon weapons aren't required to play the game. They are "nice to have". If you want the item, go work for it. And if you say this is a game, it shouldn't be work, realize this: That's what makes a game, a game worth playing. If everything is just handed to you, it stops being a game and is more like TV. The very thought of people having ultimate gear without having to work for them makes me sick. Can't stand people like that. If anyone who is reading this is an instant gratification person (I know some of you are) then please stop playing this game and stop posting. I don't want you ruining this game for me.


tl;dr: suck it up. make a choice of which ring you want and drive on.

The point is that being able to make a choice makes this game more interesting. Even for player with 1 job, it's still hard to make the choice. I only play 1 job mostly, and even then I need multiple rings. It's certainly more interesting to have "which ring to pick for X job" discussion on the forum, instead of just complete the mission and pick a ring that's obviously the best, such as Rajas.

I'm glad that SE force us to make a choice now, instead of "if you don't pick this you're doing wrong" like CoP, DM and WoTG. The fact is that we've been making a choice since DM, if this is an issue ppl would quit 10 years ago.