Alex Supply and Salvage Cheating- Accounts Not Banned?

[Reain]

Count me among those who are surprised the bans were not permanent. It will be interesting to see what Alexandrite prices do now. I bet they stay around 8k, perhaps creeping back up to 10k in the extremely long term.

I was surprised too. I suppose it's possible they will do an investigation and ban at a later date and just didn't want to wield the banhammer right before the Return to Vana'diel campaign.

[Suteru]

I was surprised too. I suppose it's possible they will do an investigation and ban at a later date and just didn't want to wield the banhammer right before the Return to Vana'diel campaign.

It's just that though. They did ban people, but not permanently.

It's just weird that exploiting an in-game bug to make 2 copies of a rare/ex item was punished way more severely than using third-party hacking tools to obtain thousands of Alexandrite, a major part of the economy nowadays.

[Pixela]

I'm amazed you knew about this but were complaining less than a month ago that Trusts was too difficult to figure out.

All these things are all posted on certain forums, same as all the FFXIV exploits. Dynamis Time extension respawn tricks, salvage boss resetting and a lots of 3rd party apps are all posted and talked about openly. This isn't a new thing, it's always been the way.

Coming back to the game after years break and making posts about new players has no relevance on being able to read a forum that has existed for 6+ years and has always discussed this stuff.

The main problem with this kind of blatant cheating (basically duping) is that it impacts everyone, people that make money from farming will make less and have a tough time selling, people that made mythics will have their mythics devalued.

It's only the dumb people like the guy that was listed that abuse it to such a degree that it becomes obvious. Many of these things aren't new, they have been around for a long time.

[Hoshi]

I don't really see that cheaper alex devalued mythics. It's still a lot of time invested to do all the other requirements. The only real difference during this exploit was that if you were buying alex the gil cost went from 300 million to maybe 240 million.

[Pixela]

They need our subscription fees, I guess?

3 relics, a mythic, an empy, couple of ifrit rings+1, etc. and walked out with 500m; and still have 3.5k alex on my mule. I guess I'll wait for the price to go back up since there won't be anywhere near the supply before I sell. Well worth the suspension for me. They patched the trick though.

He has these things (and he wasn't the only one) just from abusing this.

He also still has many thousands of alex left over on a mule so could crash alex market, server wide at any moment (or any server if he server swaps). Or he could rmt his mass gil.

Since you think this kind of mass cheating does not devalue the hardest to get gear, are you also in favour of people using RMT to buy them? What they did was among the worst it's possible to do on a game like this, they made the best gear you can get and mass amounts of currency from nothing. Quite why they are still on the server, with all their ill gotten gains when it's blatantly obvious from the logs what they did and that some are bragging is beyond me.

Also if anyone is bored you can read more on BG:

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/123...age-Bans-v-2.0

[MarkovChain]

No one can crash the alexandrite market, afaik you are still limited by inventory lol.

What amazes me the most is that people are ready to sacrify their account for the sake of farming alexandrites. At 1k alex per run you don't even make 7Millions, at 3k per run you don't even make 21 Millions. You are better off farming adl and selling marrows the legit way (4M and it's fairly easy to get 6 pops and 6 kills within 3 hours of dynamis using alt characters). Which leads me to the conclusion that those cheaters are pretty dumb, probably noobs cheating for the sake of cheating.

[Safiyyah]

I don't really see that cheaper alex devalued mythics. It's still a lot of time invested to do all the other requirements. The only real difference during this exploit was that if you were buying alex the gil cost went from 300 million to maybe 240 million.

Supposedly there were infinite assault tag cheats, so the only real hurdle to finishing a mythic was the therion ichor. This would agree with what I saw- over the last few months, many of the people who got temporary bans for cheating in Salvage last weekend were shouting for Ein runs. All of these players need to go, man.

edited for not being constructive, apologies.

[TrippyCat]

They cheated, were caught and got punished just because you didn't like the punishment, what reason does that give you to come to these forums and act like a crybaby because that's how it comes across.

I suggest you simply deal with it. Se won't give out perma bans now they have already delt with it via a 3 day ban so please just go away and close this topic as it's pointless now.

[NeverGonnaGiveYouUp]

They cheated, were caught and got punished just because you didn't like the punishment, what reason does that give you to come to these forums and act like a crybaby because that's how it comes across.

I suggest you simply deal with it. Se won't give out perma bans now they have already delt with it via a 3 day ban so please just go away and close this topic as it's pointless now.

Wat. If you really think a 3 day vacation is punishment, you probably don't even know what the sky looks like.

[TrippyCat]

Who gives a toss pal ? Se decided to give them 3 day temp bans there is nothing you nor i or anyone can do about it so like i said deal with it.

S.e arn't going to suddenly give them a perma ban now after they have already taken action so just get over it.