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  1. #101
    Player svengalis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gdsmsonn View Post
    I believe it ruined the game. But that's my opinion. Like Kaji said, you need to expierence it for yourself.
    My opinion is that abby needs to be made for levels 70+ because of all the leeching going on. It's not *that* hard to get your levels. You just gotta get off your butt and do something for yourself. I know people who have got like 2-3 50+ level jobs within ONE month and they didn't have to go to abby..so it can't be that hard!
    I don't think Abyssea ruined the game I think level sync did. But with the dwindling player base and many people already with alot of jobs at max level it was becoming increasingly hard for many jobs to find a party so I don't really think they had any other choice but to do it the way they did it.
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  2. #102
    Player Coldbrand's Avatar
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    As opposed to leveling through the same dungeons you've done like 8 times before. Which is "fun." (In reference to OP)
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    You can use the first one without the other two but Scars is the best one and it's also the last one. You will need all 3 if you want full AF 3(Empyrean Armor) for your job also.
    Heroes is the last of the Abyssea versions. Scars is second. Vision is first.
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  4. #104
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    Yes, abyssea has not only ruined ffxi, it has in a way change it into a different game. May well just call it Abyssea now scrap FF moniker.

    Abyssea rendered obsolete virtually all previous gear, all but terminated all other events for the sake of one: assault, sky, salvage, einherjar, sea, dynamis, limbus, ..., all rendered useless.. all of which were fun, well designed, challenging, and rewarding. There were many ways to save these events and still increase FFXI's scope overall for the end gamer.

    No influx of new players come down the pipe, FFXI is dead imo, no fresh blood now flows in Vana'diel. The old zones are now a waste of server power and precious Japanese electricity.

    It is most unfortunate, gone are the glory days of old.
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    I don't think Abyssea ruined the game I think level sync did. But with the dwindling player base and many people already with alot of jobs at max level it was becoming increasingly hard for many jobs to find a party so I don't really think they had any other choice but to do it the way they did it.
    True indeed, I agree level Sync did harm the game, in fact altered the core fundamentals of FFXI gameplay at the time of implementation. Earlier world merges were necessary much earlier than those implemented, imo and would have saved the original game resolving look-for-party woes, event seeks, etc before the baby boomers grew out levels, jobs, and events...
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  6. #106
    Player Takero's Avatar
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    I don't think Abyssea has ruined FFXI. Its nice knowing that all jobs can exp together and not just by popularity vote. Most of the complaints I've seen about Abyssea is that all their hard work has been redeemed useless now. Its an MMO, gear will turn obsolete over time as new gear is implemented into the system. And SE has already said plan to buff up previous gear from Salvage. I never want to see EXP as form of "difficulty," its not difficult, just boring when have to grind just for a few levels.

    I think you should experience Abyssea and see if you like it or not before judging, there is a bunch of people that both like and dislike FFXI - Abyssea as some have put it lol.
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  7. #107
    Player vordox's Avatar
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    Vordox
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    WAR Lv 99
    I find it has ruined the game a lot, it has eliminated the strategy of the game. You no longer need a straight tank so no longer need a pld or nin to tank. You get buffs from the npc that eliminates the need for cor or brd, basically it has became a place to go for fast group mob xp w/o the benefit of skill ups or reward of time with people learning the game. It all goes by so fast that you fill merits and cap xp to fast. I had 14 jobs at 75 before the introduction of level synch, I soloed blu blm smn and bst. I have capped merits on all but cor pup dnc and sch because I am slowly leveling them by grinding them. Abyssea is great to solo in I can spend hours in there and get many TE just by soloing. It does have it's merits but as a whole it has ruined the strategy and a place for many of the jobs that were made for the game. I just feel to many new people came in to the game who used to play WoW and then bitched because they found it was not a cookie cutter quick level up game.
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  8. #108
    Player Khajit's Avatar
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    You never needed a pld to tank in the first place. People just didn't know any better.
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    Player RaenRyong's Avatar
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    You didn't need a pld or nin to tank anything (possibly PW) for years.

    It is player knowledge and skill that has improved the most in response to a new system. While the new system certainly helps with not using a PLD or NIN, it isn't the only thing that allows it.

    MNKs used to tank Salvage. Why could they never tank anywhere else? The answer is that they could - preconception was the only thing stopping it. I don't see why people are so surprised that MNK is such a powerful tank all of a sudden - damage mitigation abilities + high HP + good hate generation [from damage] => tank.

    Hell, some groups still use PLDs and NINs to tank. NIN I consider possibly the best tank at the moment but PLD is definitely way below par... not much has changed other than people have had a REASON to adapt.
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  10. #110
    Player Mordanthos's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHARP-OAK View Post
    i think aby messed up the game in a couple ways , the entry lvl is too low they shouldve made entry into aby at least 65 , 75 would even be better.then ppl would at least know the basics of the job 1. ppl who do smn burns to 30 then jump to aby to leech end up not knowing how to play the job just due to lack of experience. 2. becuz of the speed at which you lvl you dont get skill-ups , so you end up w/ a very gimp lvl 90 job, ppl who dont know what WS to use to get skillchain , why because they havent spent hours in pt in caedarva mire getting a chance to learn. I had 7 lvl 75's b4 aby only 2 of them are capped on skills now. I think aby is kool dont get me wrong, but these problems mentioned couldve been avoided to a great extent by just having a higher entry lvl.I was farming in sauromugue i see this mnk out there i know from his gear he was high lvl at any rate he was getting slaughtered i asked what was up w/ him dying so much he tells me his h2h was 62 i bust out laughing.Good 'ol aby i said.I do miss the long pt's in the mire getting to actually talk to ppl ,cuz in aby you constantly killing and just about all you see in chat is "temps in 10 " or "key item /random if you need" ...... Aby is kool as i said the NM's , the gear all sweet.
    Just go to Castle Svhall Baileys for free Skill Ups on mobs that dont attack back. You should be able to take the skill up to 310 there, or whatever is equivalent to lvl 83. I believe there are 8 or 12 mobs of this type in the zone, and only 4 of them are able to be engaged without worries of being aggroed by something. So you can freely take any WS over 300 on a mob that doesnt even fight back.
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